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Date:      Tue, 03 Sep 2024 18:30:38 +0000
From:      bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org
To:        net@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   [Bug 280701] FreeBSD-SA-24:05 fix breaks ICMP/ICMP6 states handling in pf firewall (ping, traceroute)
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--- Comment #67 from Franco Fichtner <franco@opnsense.org> ---
There are some open release engineering questions in this thread, lack of
professionalism discarding a problem that was later fixed without comment
aside. Doing the least bit of rectifying the previous behaviour would be a =
good
start to a useful discussion on the subject.

The first and foremost question is how this was tested and verified? Was the
researcher involved in all steps?  The commits don't have a "Reviewed by" or
"Tested by" either.  Is this normal now?

Does release engineering not assess the risk of spreading an SA fix over 4
commits with about 500 LOC changed introducing new features while at it? Th=
at
then grew to 6 commits, with 10 commits at the moment. It's a classic scope
creep that should be avoided on releases at all cost. The test coverage was=
n't
there to make an educated choice either.

Why is the fake id portion of the original OpenBSD patch omitted?

At least https://github.com/openbsd/src/commit/49f39043a02d is still missin=
g.
Can anyone comment on why one would think that we should try to get away wi=
th
the least bit of commits here when we can clearly see all the related probl=
ems
were seen and handled in OpenBSD in the meantime?

Why does nobody ask the reporters here to test this again? Why are the insi=
ghts
given by reporters brushed off?

You can clearly see where the problem started given that nobody cares answe=
ring
these questions.

TLDR: SO should do this again, please, but RE shouldn't.


Cheers,
Franco

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