From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 24 19:13:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1677106564A for ; Mon, 24 May 2010 19:13:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from corky1951@comcast.net) Received: from qmta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F4888FC12 for ; Mon, 24 May 2010 19:13:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.35]) by qmta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id MUtZ1e00A0ldTLk5AXDBbt; Mon, 24 May 2010 19:13:11 +0000 Received: from comcast.net ([98.203.142.76]) by omta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id MXD91e0021f6R9u3QXD9v5; Mon, 24 May 2010 19:13:11 +0000 Received: by comcast.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 24 May 2010 12:13:07 -0700 Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 12:13:07 -0700 From: Charlie Kester To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100524191307.GE216@comcast.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Mutt 1.5.20 X-Composer: Vim 7.2 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Subject: Re: GSoC: BSD text tools X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 19:13:11 -0000 On Mon 24 May 2010 at 00:08:30 PDT Ben Fiedler wrote: >I'll be working on replacing groff with mdocml (mandoc) in the system base >(and yes, I am aware of Gordon's work on a man >replacement). >In addition, I will be creating or (more likely) porting BSD-ish licensed >feature-complete replacements for: diff, sort, sdiff, diff3, also moving >them into the base (and yes, I know of the bsddiff and bsdsort ports). >Finally, I will perform some benchmark comparisons between these new tools >and their GNU counterparts. > >More info is available at my project page: >http://wiki.freebsd.org/SOC2010BenFiedler > >Any feedback or questions are most welcome. I welcome this change, but groff is used for much more than manpages. What happens to pic, tbl, and the other troff-related "little languages"? How can you say mdocml is "completely replacing" groff if it doesn't support those kinds of things? Is the thinking that groff has only been in base to support manpages? If so, this project makes sense. But even so, some clarification of the intent is needed.