From owner-cvs-all Thu Aug 27 09:24:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from daemon@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA03139 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 09:24:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all) Received: from apollo.backplane.com (apollo.backplane.com [209.157.86.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA03029; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 09:24:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@backplane.com) Received: (dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.8.8/8.6.5) id JAA14670; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 09:23:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 09:23:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <199808271623.JAA14670@apollo.backplane.com> To: "David O'Brien" Cc: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sbin/ping ping.8 ping.c Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk : :> I agree, we frequently use ping to detect when a machine has come :> back up from a remote reboot, and needing to be root to do so would be :> a hinderance. Moreover, from the sound of things, you can only ping :> 100 times as root, which may not be enough (POST on a UE450 can take :> forever :-)). : :Seems most of us are in agreement on this one. :So Matt, is this going to be backed out?? : :I'd also like to see continuious pings the default again. Why do we have :to be this non-standard for *BSD machines? When I run ping, I often :don't know how many I want to send out. I ^C when I've seen enought. I :understand your needs as an ISP, but I'm not sure these changes are best :for the general FreeBSD public. : :-- :-- David (obrien@NUXI.com -or- obrien@FreeBSD.org) Well, it seems to be too contentious an issue, nobody is willing to take a longer-term view. The -c restritions were already taken out so no further mods should be necessary. I think it's a big mistake, though, the default should not be infinite packets. -Matt Matthew Dillon Engineering, HiWay Technologies, Inc. & BEST Internet Communications (Please include original email in any response)