From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 25 2:45:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail.bastard.co.uk (node16292.a2000.nl [24.132.98.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5E2C37B933; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 02:45:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from adrian@bastard.co.uk) Received: from adrian by mail.bastard.co.uk with local (Exim 3.14 #1) id 1368yZ-000Byl-00; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 11:45:15 +0200 Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 11:45:15 +0200 From: Adrian Chadd To: Kirk McKusick Cc: Stefan Esser , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/contrib/softupdates softdep.h ffs_softdep.c Message-ID: <20000625114515.M36017@zoe.bastard.co.uk> References: <20000622115426.H29036@zoe.bastard.co.uk> <200006241900.MAA04365@beastie.mckusick.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <200006241900.MAA04365@beastie.mckusick.com>; from mckusick@mckusick.com on Sat, Jun 24, 2000 at 12:00:26PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Jun 24, 2000, Kirk McKusick wrote: [snip] > Kirk, do you still want to keep things that way ? > > Adrian > > Yes, I do want it kept as a yunefs option. [snip] > Your above proposal would work, though that is not how NetBSD > implemented it. I feel that it is a lot of extra mechanism for very > little gain. Administrators generally make a one-time decision to > run soft updates on a filesystem. It is not the sort of thing that > they want to change on a regular basis. It is possible to run tunefs > on a filesystem that is mounted read-only, so it no more difficult > to use tunefs than it is to make it a mount-time option (i.e., they > still have to down-grade to read-only, set the option, then upgrade). > Finally, I expect that soft updates will eventually just be defaulted > to `on' when a filesystem is built, and in a few rare instances an > administrator will want to turn it off. I do not want to have an > option that needs to be added to nearly every fstab entry to get > the default behavior. Plus it is just one more bit of trivia that > new system administrators need to learn to make their systems run > well. The more of those details that need not be learned because > they just do the right thing, the better. There we go. If someone has a better argument against this, feel free to post it to the list. I'm calling this one dead. Thanks, Kirk. Adrian -- Adrian Chadd Build a man a fire, and he's warm for the rest of the evening. Set a man on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message