From owner-freebsd-current Sat Apr 18 18:48:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA20858 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 18:48:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.atipa.com (altrox.atipa.com [208.128.22.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA20820 for ; Sun, 19 Apr 1998 01:48:01 GMT (envelope-from freebsd@atipa.com) Received: (qmail 21999 invoked by uid 1017); 19 Apr 1998 00:45:18 -0000 Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 18:45:18 -0600 (MDT) From: Atipa To: Andrzej Bialecki cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: There was PicoBSD - let there be a Mini... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I was working on a Tcl/Tk frontend to Userland PPP. If that would be helpful for this project, let me know and I will continue work. I put it on the back burner a couple months ago... Looking at RedHat Linux as an example of GUI admin tools for UNIX converts, they use lots of Tk. I think that would be a good addition to a FreeBSD "usable preview" as such. This is also like a different project that I was thinking about. My idea was very similar, except the whole distribution came on a bootable CD-ROM w/ live filesystem. You could mount /etc on MFS, and fire up a X11 w/ a basic SVGA server, and use X11 for setup. Kevin On Sat, 18 Apr 1998, Andrzej Bialecki wrote: > Hi! > > I seem to have some crazy ideas from time to time... Here's one of them. > > I propose to add another type of installation combined with a special > distribution set. The idea behind it is to let people who are completely > new to FreeBSD just try the system without really installing it (which > bears all the hassle of repartitioning etc.), and to have positive enough > impression to install i then in normal way. I admit that this idea occured > to me when I tried the JavaPC preview. :-) > > Here's what the setup would be like: > > * the whole installation (available in sysinstall :-) would place FreeBSD > on an existing DOS partition. Installation program would create the file > with filesystem on it (which will then be mounted on a vn(4) device). This > will require (well, it depends) ca. 16-24MB of free space on a DOS > partition. > > * then the special distribution set would be transferred to the vn-mounted > file. This distribution would contain (among others): basic system > utilities, pretty minimal XWindow with SVGA server and a nice window > manager (qvwm?) with file manager (FreeBSD Explorer?); and of course > Netscape/Mozilla browser with Java. > > * the most important requirement of this set would be that each element > work as expected with almost no setup on user's part (except > network/dialup setup, which can be done with user-friendly script). > > * the whole thing would be started from DOS (using fbsdboot.exe). This > will probably require special C:\kernel with small MFS, containing > init(8), mount, vnconfig etc.. which after booting would first mount the > DOS partition, and then vnconfig the previously created file with OS on > it, and mount it on /. > > Well, that's basically the whole idea. How do you like it? > > I'm willing to try it anyway, and even to write some of the glue code > needed to incorporate it into sysinstall. > > Andrzej Bialecki > > --------------------+--------------------------------------------------------- > abial@nask.pl | if(halt_per_mth > 0) { fetch("http://www.freebsd.org") } > Research & Academic | "Be open-minded, but don't let your brains to fall out." > Network in Poland | All of the above (and more) is just my personal opinion. > --------------------+--------------------------------------------------------- > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message