Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2013 14:59:15 +0100 From: Erwin Lansing <erwin@lansing.dk> To: George Kontostanos <gkontos.mail@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-stable <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>, =?utf-8?Q?=C3=96zkan_KIRIK?= <ozkan.kirik@gmail.com>, FreeBSD Current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>, Gleb Smirnoff <glebius@freebsd.org>, FreeBSD Release Engineering Team <re@freebsd.org>, =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= <des@freebsd.org>, Stefan Bethke <stb@lassitu.de> Subject: Re: FreeBSD 10 Beta2 /etc/rc.d/named script and /etc/defaults/rc.conf Message-ID: <868B00D6-101A-4B17-995F-A3E2AFE41908@lansing.dk> In-Reply-To: <CA%2BdUSyp5JWskKU7_oMxuTsZekimtRs2A%2BmEZm=kS-87jNjF9yQ@mail.gmail.com> References: <CAAcX-AFJ__4CDz7%2BabFoRf%2BecrfOZRFXaos1sYnb85=k_BweEw@mail.gmail.com> <20131103220654.GU52889@FreeBSD.org> <6AA4A8E1-CBCE-4C87-A320-BB08EC76715F@lassitu.de> <CA%2BdUSypfj5Ja%2BKi1tikG19na7Dv96foW3HE%2BTEPaNYOUM9r5Cw@mail.gmail.com> <20131104083443.GZ52889@FreeBSD.org> <2B21E123-23BA-4E07-B9DD-9DE1CDE40D08@FreeBSD.org> <20131104163457.GJ52889@FreeBSD.org> <CA%2BdUSyp5JWskKU7_oMxuTsZekimtRs2A%2BmEZm=kS-87jNjF9yQ@mail.gmail.com>
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> On 06/11/2013, at 14.22, George Kontostanos <gkontos.mail@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 6:34 PM, Gleb Smirnoff <glebius@freebsd.org> wrote: >> On Mon, Nov 04, 2013 at 12:11:02PM +0100, Erwin Lansing wrote: >> E> > On Mon, Nov 04, 2013 at 01:41:01AM +0200, George Kontostanos wrote: >> E> > G> > Am 03.11.2013 um 23:06 schrieb Gleb Smirnoff <glebius@FreeBSD.org>: >> E> > G> > >> E> > G> > > On Sun, Nov 03, 2013 at 10:05:02PM +0200, Özkan KIRIK wrote: >> E> > G> > > Ö> Altough bind removed from FreeBSD 10 distribution, "/etc/rc.d/named" >> E> > G> > script >> E> > G> > > Ö> still exists. >> E> > G> > > Ö> and this script depends on "/etc/mtree/BIND.chroot.dist" file but >> E> > G> > there is >> E> > G> > > Ö> no such file in source tree. >> E> > G> > > Ö> I think this file was forgotten to be removed. >> E> > G> > > Ö> >> E> > G> > > Ö> And also, named_* definitions still exists in /etc/defaults/rc.conf >> E> > G> > file. >> E> > G> > > >> E> > G> > > Please review attached file that removes named from /etc. >> E> > G> > >> E> > G> > It would be great if the port would learn to install its own script etc. >> E> > G> > in time for that change. (Unless it’s already there, and I’m just too blind >> E> > G> > to see it.) >> E> > G> >> E> > G> No you are not blind. Installing bind from ports still relies on the >> E> > G> /etc/rc.d/named script. >> E> > >> E> > Erwin, can you please handle that? >> E> >> E> Things are much worse that this, the ports are completely written under the assumption that there is a Bind in base, which of course would already break with WITHOUT_BIND before Bind was completely removed. It will be hard to fix without breaking the installed base of 8 and 9. Sigh. >> E> >> E> I'll try to work on it this week, but unfortunately have a full schedule of meetings and travel as well. > > Suggestion. An option to install the rc script would solve that problem. > If only it was that simple, it would have been done a long time ago. As Gleb points out, the ports are broken by design. The rc script needs a complete rewrite, and that's only after fixing all configuration files, setting up chroot, etc etc and all that while not breaking the installed base on 8 and 9. I spent most of yesterday on this and if I'm lucky, I'm halfway through. Erwin, sent from a phone at the train station >> >> What should we do with src? >> >> IMO, we should proceed with removal of remnants of bind in src. In the worst case, >> if you can't handle it this week, the situation will be the following: >> >> 1) 8.x, 9.x users are okay >> 2) 10+.x users w/o bind are okay >> 3) 10+.x users with bind have problems >> >> If we skip updating src, then situation would be: >> >> 1) 8.x, 9.x users are okay >> 2) 10+.x users w/o bind have problems >> 3) 10+.x users with bind are okay >> >> I think, there are less 10.x users with bind, than 10.x without it. > > Please warn about this in UPDATING. I am personally use 12 FreeBSD servers as dedicated DNS servers only. > >> -- >> Totus tuus, Glebius. > > > > -- > George Kontostanos > --- > http://www.aisecure.net
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