From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 14 04:52:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2886F16A403; Thu, 14 Sep 2006 04:52:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anthony.maher@uts.edu.au) Received: from gaz.itd.uts.edu.au (gaz.itd.uts.edu.au [138.25.22.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A91443D72; Thu, 14 Sep 2006 04:52:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from anthony.maher@uts.edu.au) Received: by gaz.itd.uts.edu.au (Postfix, from userid 1011) id 1B6CEAE783; Thu, 14 Sep 2006 14:47:43 +1000 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gaz.itd.uts.edu.au (Postfix/Intermediary) with ESMTP id 0C7C4AE86C; Thu, 14 Sep 2006 14:47:43 +1000 (EST) Received: from vimes (vimes.itd.uts.edu.au [138.25.243.34]) by gaz.itd.uts.edu.au (Postfix/Ingress) with ESMTP id ED931AE783; Thu, 14 Sep 2006 14:47:42 +1000 (EST) Received: from [138.25.81.112] by postoffice.uts.edu.au (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.03 (built Sep 22 2005)) with ESMTPS id <0J5K001VRG6VBH70@postoffice.uts.edu.au>; Thu, 14 Sep 2006 14:52:07 +1000 (EST) Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 14:52:07 +1000 From: Tony Maher In-reply-to: <20060914012316.V1031@ganymede.hub.org> To: "Marc G. Fournier" Message-id: <4508DFF7.1060808@uts.edu.au> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en X-Enigmail-Version: 0.93.0.0 References: <20060909173813.GA1388@FS.denninger.net> <45065C67.6040503@cs.tu-berlin.de> <20060912141547.GA11713@FS.denninger.net> <4506D884.4050605@scls.lib.wi.us> <20060912171617.556a43cc.steve@sohara.org> <20060914012316.V1031@ganymede.hub.org> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20060511 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ARRRRGH! Guys, who's breaking -STABLE's GMIRROR code?! X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 04:52:18 -0000 Marc G. Fournier wrote: > On Tue, 12 Sep 2006, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > >> On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 10:55:48 -0500 >> Greg Barniskis wrote: >> >>> If you /track/ STABLE by frequently cvsupping it and rebuilding your >>> system, you will very likely encounter a serious problem sooner or >>> later. That's why tracking it is not recommended for production >>> systems. >> >> >> I did exactly that all the way from 2.0 to 4.11 on various machines >> without ever having any trouble. > > > Ditto ... in fact, I do that on my desktop and have yet to hit a problem > ... -STABLE *is* generally very stable ... > > Stupid question here ... if -STABLE shouldn't be tracked, who exactly is > doing testing on it? Those doing "the work" on -CURRENT, I would > imagine, are tracking -CURRENT, and testing the code put in there for > bugs ... when deemed 'bug free', then its being MFCd to -STABLE, but if > those of us that *are* tracking -STABLE stop'd tracking it ... who would > be testing it? It is not that you should not track it but where you should be tracking/testing it. Not on critical production servers would be a good start ;-) -- tonym