Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 09:28:44 +0100 From: Mel <fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Beech Rintoul <beech@freebsd.org>, Javier Vasquez <jevv.cr@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [freebsd-questions] Looking @ upgrades mechanisms... Message-ID: <200812020928.46110.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> In-Reply-To: <200812012304.56334.beech@freebsd.org> References: <c88cc5730812012241i6ea540uc8a56f40c3d8237e@mail.gmail.com> <c88cc5730812012243j7a26d58bkec5cdb5fef799907@mail.gmail.com> <200812012304.56334.beech@freebsd.org>
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On Tuesday 02 December 2008 09:04:56 Beech Rintoul wrote:
> On Monday 01 December 2008 21:43:08 Javier Vasquez wrote:
> > On 12/2/08, Javier Vasquez <jevv.cr@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I was reading chapter 4 of the handbook, as well as chapters 24 and
> > > 26... If I got it clear, I pretty much might get the base system
> > > updated by using freebsd-update script. Ports collection can get
> > > updated with portsnap, but that doesn't update neither the installed
> > > ports, nor the installed packages. To upgrade the installed ports,
> > > portmanager or portmaster or portupgrade can be used... However only
> > > portupgrade can be used to upgrade packages, right?
>
> Not sure about the others, I use portupgrade myself. But yes, you can
> update packages with portupgrade.
>
> > > Now, can something like "portupgrade -a -PP" to upgrade all packages
> > > without building a thing (might be that some don't get updated due to
> > > the lack of binary package yet, and in such case would dependencies be
> > > managed right)?
>
> Not sure what you mean by managed, but if there's no package there would be
> no dependent ports downloaded. If you do a portupgrade -aP (single "P") it
> will go look for a package then compile it if it's not available. Compiling
> really isn't that bad even on an 800MHz box.
Portupgrade -PP is detrimental for bandwidth. It's not really portupgrade's
fault (well, partially, it shouldn't offer the feature), because it will
quite often download Latest/foo.tbz, unpack it entirely and then say "oops, I
downloaded this useless package which is older or equal to what you have
installed".
When i started writing my own tools I quickly realized that the buildserver
needs an index of the /packages/ it has.
--
Mel
Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules
and never get to the software part.
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