From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 26 09:47:53 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B637106566B for ; Sun, 26 Sep 2010 09:47:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6F2F8FC08 for ; Sun, 26 Sep 2010 09:47:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o8Q9llMD018478 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 26 Sep 2010 10:47:47 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4C9F16BB.1030603@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 10:47:39 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100915 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: victor kovacs References: <4C9EA6FF.4050204@pathcom.com> In-Reply-To: <4C9EA6FF.4050204@pathcom.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig18A0CEAB08CF2749E0B9A064" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.3 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Free BSD 8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 09:47:53 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig18A0CEAB08CF2749E0B9A064 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 26/09/2010 02:50:55, victor kovacs wrote: >=20 > It appears that all the distfile locations are empty. >=20 > For example: KDE4 >=20 > Master site: empty >=20 > Distfiles: none >=20 > Extract-only: empty >=20 That's deliberate. x11/kde4 is a metaport -- that is, it installs nothing itself, but exists only to hold dependencies on other KDE4 components. Installing x11/kde4 will trigger a cascading installation of the 20-odd other ports (as modified by your choice of options) that go to create a whole KDE system. > Have the distfiles for the GUI been left out of the dvd? >=20 > Same situation when 32 or 64 side of dvd is loaded. >=20 > The dvd disk reader is read only. It cannot write to disk. No -- the tarball of the ports in the distribution media is a faithful copy of the state of the ports tree at the time the media were created. Distfiles aren't included in FreeBSD DVD images -- there's only about 4.5GB to play with, and most of that is taken up by FreeBSD itself, and a selection of the most important software pre-compiled in pkg format. All of the distfiles or all of the pkgs for all of the ports together are substantially larger than any single piece of distribution medium (disk, USB key, etc.) readily available at the moment. Even just selecting the most commonly installed applications easily overflows the capacity of the DVD (and consider what invidious choices that selection process involves). Be aware that installing the ports tree from the DVD images is not the ideal way to do it. If you have the connectivity on your newly installed system, it is better to use either csup(1) or portsnap(1) to grab an up-to-date copy of the ports directly from the net. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig18A0CEAB08CF2749E0B9A064 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkyfFsMACgkQ8Mjk52CukIztcQCfYwz2Mdx5yjEi+Mt+8puv64vD MvkAn2kikfmrUPrjOsMLLWUvBX341d3o =TyNr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig18A0CEAB08CF2749E0B9A064--