From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Sat Jan 14 11:43:58 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D1EBCAF472 for ; Sat, 14 Jan 2017 11:43:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from theraven@FreeBSD.org) Received: from theravensnest.org (theraven.freebsd.your.org [216.14.102.27]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "cloud.theravensnest.org", Issuer "StartCom Class 1 DV Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7DAC5132F; Sat, 14 Jan 2017 11:43:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from theraven@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [192.168.1.65] (host81-157-241-147.range81-157.btcentralplus.com [81.157.241.147]) (authenticated bits=0) by theravensnest.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id v0EBhJtF028020 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 14 Jan 2017 11:43:21 GMT (envelope-from theraven@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: theravensnest.org: Host host81-157-241-147.range81-157.btcentralplus.com [81.157.241.147] claimed to be [192.168.1.65] Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_7D5C8CC5-4F25-4C5F-A8A8-D5E217420BB1"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) Subject: Re: vt(4) chops off the leftmost three columns From: David Chisnall In-Reply-To: <58782699.2050504@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2017 11:43:13 +0000 Cc: Alan Somers , FreeBSD CURRENT Message-Id: <46CE81D4-FB40-4E41-99CF-A105D9E62369@FreeBSD.org> References: <58782699.2050504@gmail.com> To: Ernie Luzar X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2017 11:43:58 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_7D5C8CC5-4F25-4C5F-A8A8-D5E217420BB1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On 13 Jan 2017, at 01:00, Ernie Luzar wrote: >=20 > VT should have had better testing before becoming the default in 11.0. The choice was VT or no acceleration in X11, because all of the new DRI = drivers depend on KMS, which requires VT. We only got VT in a useable = state (and therefore useable accelerated X11 for most of the 10.x = series) because the Foundation funded the work. More contributions to = VT are always welcome, but the choice was not between VT or something = better tested, it was between VT and black screens. 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