From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Mar 20 13:20:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2D0337BF63; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 12:59:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gandalf@vilnya.demon.co.uk) Received: from vilnya.demon.co.uk ([158.152.19.238]) by anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12X9G1-000CaF-0V; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 20:58:43 +0000 Received: from NENYA (nenya.rings [10.2.4.3]) by vilnya.demon.co.uk (Postfix) with SMTP id 94D39D9AD; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 20:58:20 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <000c01bf92af$144ac600$0304020a@NENYA> From: "Cameron Grant" To: "Randall Hopper" Cc: "Amancio Hasty" , "Conrad Sabatier" , , References: <200003191838.KAA40955@rah.star-gate.com> <000701bf91d5$4aebeb60$0304020a@NENYA> <001a01bf91c1$7f62a4b0$0304020a@NENYA> <200003191838.KAA40955@rah.star-gate.com> <20000319220453.A65973@ipass.net> <005d01bf9221$4660ac60$0304020a@NENYA> <20000320153429.A1373@ipass.net> Subject: Re: Voxware is toast. Get used to it. (Re: Suggestions for improving newpcm performance?) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 20:58:44 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > |to my knowledge, midi is the only functionality missing. also, multiple > |opens of /dev/dsp are not yet implemented. both will be soon. >From what I hear, it sounds like we need some more testing time too. exactly *what* do you think -current is? > |> Why would we transition any other way? > |because various functionality voxware uses is now optional > What does this mean? unless you define 'options COMPAT_OLDISA' voxware will not compile. > |and will be gone in the coming weeks. the kernel does not revolve around > |sound, > Exactly. The kernel revolves around applications. And applications > revolve around users and their needs. -current revolves around developers. 5.0-release will be at least a year in the making. > |and voxware is an acceptable loss. once the isa shims are gone, voxware > |will not compile without being newbusified which is a task of great > |magnitude. at this time, the point is moot. > Is it? You own a 400 room apartment building. You've built a > brand-spankin new 200 room apartment building with a pool. Cool. Now you > say to the residents, "Everybody over to the new building with the pool. > We're gonna blow the other one up!" Do you really think the residents in > the other 200 rooms are going to sleep on the the street while you expand? > There are other apartments.... this similie is not appropriate to -current, which is the subject of this discussion. > |unless someone comes forward with a newbusified voxware, it will be > |removed soon. i, and others, will want to see code, not promises. > Sorry Fred. That line don't fly with me. I don't have to stand ready with > coding time to fix anything you want to break or rip out. then suffer the loss gracefully. -cg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message