From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Aug 14 16:01:16 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93A3C3C2B59 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2020 16:01:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from soth.netfence.it (net-2-44-121-52.cust.vodafonedsl.it [2.44.121.52]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mailserver.netfence.it", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4BSp8C34qqz3bnf for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2020 16:01:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from alamar.ventu (alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18]) (authenticated bits=0) by soth.netfence.it (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id 07EG13nU064509 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2020 18:01:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) X-Authentication-Warning: soth.netfence.it: Host alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18] claimed to be alamar.ventu Subject: Re: Complete idiots guide to virtualize Android with bhyve To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <2FpLnblcS8dY17rDqJi-ACKQ4qXa5A6M7LZjQ2xv79zjqXLj9-jCTMZes_SU1glRZmJ8BtpIp5IJDT0dBNBq5fWf_6vBDexQ_UqivFWS7Hk=@dstev.xyz> <20200805091331.4b52af5c@archlinux> From: Andrea Venturoli Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2020 18:01:03 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.10.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20200805091331.4b52af5c@archlinux> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4BSp8C34qqz3bnf X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=netfence.it; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ml@netfence.it designates 2.44.121.52 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ml@netfence.it X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.89 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:2.44.121.52]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.99)[-0.990]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.06)[-0.059]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[netfence.it,none]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.04)[-1.043]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:30722, ipnet:2.44.0.0/16, country:IT]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2020 16:01:16 -0000 On 2020-08-05 09:13, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > it doesn't make sense to install an operating system that doesn't > fit the users needs and then to emulate a mobile phone on that > operating system, to run the required applications. That is the most > worst mismanagement possible in the first place. Well, I think there are situation in which virtualizing Android does make sense. I need a desktop system 99% of the time, but I have an Android app (*) that I'd need to run occasionally. (*) Not Zoom. It's an app that shouldn't probably exist in the first place, but so it is. > You are using an operating system not providing what you actually > need, No, I'm using an operating system which gives me 99% of what I need. > so to workaround the wrong choice done in the first place, you > consider to use a virtual machine, but not to run the most useful guest > for your purpose, instead you consider to try the most freakish > "solution". No again. Really. Unfortunately that app is available for Android and iOS, so it's not a matter of "freak". > Why not running iOS or iPadOS as virtualbox guest? Licensing issues, I guess. Is it possible to run those OSes freely? To come up with something costructive, I've never run Android on bhyve, but I have on VirtualBox: performance is horrible, there are no guest additions, but it works for an occasional use. bye av.