From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 17 16:45:08 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA40216A4CE for ; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 16:45:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns1.tiadon.com (SMTP.tiadon.com [69.27.132.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21A3143D2D for ; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 16:45:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [69.27.131.0] ([69.27.131.0]) by ns1.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Wed, 17 Nov 2004 10:45:11 -0600 Message-ID: <419B801B.8060003@daleco.biz> Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 10:45:15 -0600 From: "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041023 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Moh Bana References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Nov 2004 16:45:11.0997 (UTC) FILETIME=[CE4C26D0:01C4CCC4] cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CD's ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 16:45:09 -0000 Moh Bana wrote: > Which cd is just required to install Freebsd ... i downloaded the 5.3 > iso's, their seems to be some confusion their 4 cd's? > > 2 ISO's ranging from 600mb + > and one boot cd that is 20-30mb > > > Is the freebsd with X .... that big? > > Probably not. FreeBSD without X might be 400MB+. That said, it really depends on a lot of factors, since FBSD is so customizable. Before I go on, two disclaimers. 1] newbies@ isn't a place for technicalquestions, and 2] I don't use the ISO's myself.... Now, to debug those, 1] maybe your ?? isn't so technical, and 2] the naming scheme of the ISO's isn't that hard. Bootonly is what it says. A bootable CDROM with the installer, and maybe some other stuff; but you'll need to be ready to grab the code from another source (like via FTP). "miniinst" is a CD that gets you the "minimum" installation of FreeBSD; what's called "the base system". No GUI; nothing that's not maintained by the Project itself. You could make an SMTP server with it, an FTP server, NTP server, a shell server, or ... well, you can't do much else that I can think of*, but the point is, it's FreeBSD, the system is operable, and you can add just about anything you want from there. The CD contains the installer, the binaries and manpages, crypto, contributed (GNU and other) software (including the compiler), in short, everything that's maintained by the Project itself (i.e., nothing from the ports tree). Also, no documentation except the aforementioned manual pages. "Disc 1" and "Disc 2" contain enough to get you going pretty big time. In addition to the "base system", you can expect full source code tree, the full ports tree, and enough tarballs in /usr/ports/distfiles to build X, a bunch of window managers and DE's, servers of every description, a number of programming languages, system utilities, networking tools, games, etc., etc. HTH, Kevin Kinsey DaleCo, S.P. *FreeBSD maintains Sendmail, NTP, OpenSSH, and FTPD in the source tree, along with a bunch of other stuff. If you know much about 'Nix-like OSes, you can get going with a minimum install. I don't know of anyone who uses a minimum install only ... hmm, unless it's for one of the aforementioned, or a gateway, or a router, or a firewall .. which I seem to have forgotten in the above. In short, the reason there's 4 CD's is because there's a lot of flexibility in FBSD ... and probably, the reason there aren't more is because you've gotta keep things simple somehow ...