From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Mar 21 13:13:16 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D3B02628A3 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 2020 13:13:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4c00000d41085.13d3a50a6345840190d25c23dd13ce7e@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48l1Kk1vRbz4CjH for ; Sat, 21 Mar 2020 13:13:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4c00000d41085.13d3a50a6345840190d25c23dd13ce7e@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1584796395; x=1587388395; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=oPi/aat/j94NyCHQDPNHdVDnzPICZXvd37G/za+RaE8=; b=wluXxXSJRnGP7Yzgcx2yaBhuPCn9SrnQrifmFW0EAIEIvmUbzy0qwDsASjmgfzBNvnHY5ofUObE6KmyxlYNedRDVYPKQWP3dZTDwwu0xJUK7+YO/0+enr253+dGGD8QzPL/lsvqsDmcydlw0L/Ay0Q68MxOza59cnSvc+YGcDp4= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC45Mi4xZDRjMDAwMDBkNDEwODUuZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnM9ZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Received: from r1.us-east-1.aws.in.socketlabs.com (r1.us-east-1.aws.in.socketlabs.com [142.0.191.1]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Sat, 21 Mar 2020 09:13:11 -0400 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [185.202.17.215]) by r1.us-east-1.aws.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Sat, 21 Mar 2020 09:13:10 -0400 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.92.3 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1jFdw4-0005Mf-QJ; Sat, 21 Mar 2020 13:13:08 +0000 Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2020 13:13:08 +0000 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: Marc Lehmann Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD asking contributors to fix their opinions - is it official? 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Apologies if this was wrong. Not a bad place to start. > Moving along, today, I received a mail[1] by some adamw@freebsd.org, adamw@ does post frequently in various forums - the address is genuine. > asking me to remove what "FreeBSD" perceives to be personal opinions from > my perl module, Canary::Stability[2]. Hmm, there are no patches in the port for that package > FreeBSD has had to go to lengths to fix Canary::Stability. If you > really are married to the module, can you please [...] remove the > personal opinions? There are no patches in the port so 'FreeBSD' has not 'fixed' anything. The only FreeBSD addition appears to be a stub Stability.pm. At any rate it is the port maintainer's responsibility to create patches not 'FreeBSD'. > If I read this correctly, he is acting in a capacity officially > representing FreeBSD in that matter and seems to indicate that the FreeBSD > project needs to police what it perceives as personal opinions. In fact, > it seems to be the most urgent and pressing matter, as nothing else of > substance was written. I think someone is using his address to be a PITA. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith