From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 28 23:12:27 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46F58106566C for ; Tue, 28 Dec 2010 23:12:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexander@leidinger.net) Received: from mail.ebusiness-leidinger.de (mail.ebusiness-leidinger.de [217.11.53.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFA9F8FC0C for ; Tue, 28 Dec 2010 23:12:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from outgoing.leidinger.net (p57B3ABDB.dip.t-dialin.net [87.179.171.219]) by mail.ebusiness-leidinger.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7EDAB844010; Wed, 29 Dec 2010 00:04:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from unknown (IO.Leidinger.net [192.168.2.110]) by outgoing.leidinger.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B394611FF; Wed, 29 Dec 2010 00:04:14 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2010 00:04:12 +0100 From: Alexander Leidinger To: Erik Cederstrand Message-ID: <20101229000412.000049ee@unknown> In-Reply-To: References: <201012211500.16131.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.16.0; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-EBL-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-EBL-MailScanner-ID: 7EDAB844010.A6DB6 X-EBL-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-EBL-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, spamhaus-ZEN, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-1, required 6, autolearn=disabled, ALL_TRUSTED -1.00) X-EBL-MailScanner-From: alexander@leidinger.net X-EBL-MailScanner-Watermark: 1294182258.04075@JG32wfGQRs5JtiFItqkVUw X-EBL-Spam-Status: No Cc: mdf@freebsd.org, Robert Watson , freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Schedule for releases X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2010 23:12:27 -0000 On Wed, 22 Dec 2010 08:21:56 +0100 Erik Cederstrand wrote: > Den 21/12/2010 kl. 23.28 skrev Robert Watson: > > > > > Looking at 7.x, I'm struck by how much it has slowed down. There's > > a significant user community, but not a significant developer > > community. > > Which pretty much sums up a dilemma in the development of FreeBSD, I > think. Developers want users to try out their new shiny stuff, but > users don't want to spend time upgrading. > > I think one of many things that would be great to do is to improve > the usability and coverage of the regression tests. This would take > at least some of the burden off developers who want to MFC their > work. We already have the tinderboxes, Coverity and Clang Static > Analyzer, but apart from pho's stress tests we don't have any > automated runtime testing (as far as I know). Your benchmark suite can not be used for something like this? With the regression tests as the benchmarks? BTW: real benchmarks are also some kind of regression tests, Bye, Alexander.