From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed May 22 20:15:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA03521 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 22 May 1996 20:15:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA03497; Wed, 22 May 1996 20:15:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id NAA06882; Thu, 23 May 1996 13:00:25 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199605230330.NAA06882@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: src/gnu To: sos@FreeBSD.org Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 13:00:25 +0930 (CST) Cc: gpalmer@FreeBSD.org, hackers@FreeBSD.org, peter@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199605222021.WAA00333@DeepCore.dk> from "sos@FreeBSD.org" at May 22, 96 10:21:35 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk sos@FreeBSD.org stands accused of saying: > > Hmm, the question is rather WHO is going to maintain it ?? If it's kept as a 'port' rather than mutilated and stuffed into the source tree, it should _theoretically_ be easier to get the FSF people to accept patches to it. I think the idea has a lot of merit. > Most of the gnu stuff is now so - so - entangeled, that it is > almost useless if its not known to work on your OS to begin > with (yeah I've had my share of struggle with it recently > at work, thats why I'm so negative about gnu stuff). Indeed. It's a fuming mess and no joke. > I'd rather be interested in finding alternatives from the > free world (I know the compiler & debugger is going to be > hard to replace, allthough there is some definite candidates). Even if we did, the million-and-one FSF fanatics out there would be screaming about this or that feature that we didn't have that they couldn't possibly live without. A non-GPL compiler that could build the base system would be nice, but I think GCC is going to be a required component of most developers systems for some time to come. (Or am I the only person who uses vararg macros and named structure initialisers? 8) > Søren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] Collector of old Unix hardware. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[