From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 20 02:41:36 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3CF316A41F for ; Tue, 20 Dec 2005 02:41:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from europa100@comcast.net) Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B3C943D4C for ; Tue, 20 Dec 2005 02:41:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from europa100@comcast.net) Received: from lm741n.dyndns.org ([24.20.8.31]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <2005122002413201300oommue>; Tue, 20 Dec 2005 02:41:32 +0000 Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 18:41:30 -0800 From: Rob To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20051219184130.3da9117b.europa100@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <200512191712.23720.akbeech@gmail.com> References: <20051219035752.GA27224@home-on-the-dome.mit.edu> <200512182328.38848.akbeech@gmail.com> <20051219164145.GA6735@lothlorien.nagual.st> <200512191712.23720.akbeech@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.0.0 (GTK+ 2.6.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: flash plugin in 6.0 / realplayer & fontconfig X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 02:41:36 -0000 On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 17:12:07 -0900 Beecher Rintoul wrote: > On Monday 19 December 2005 07:41 am, dick hoogendijk wrote: > > On 18 Dec Beecher Rintoul wrote: > > > On Sunday 18 December 2005 10:16 pm, Dev Tugnait wrote: > > > > On Mon, 2005-12-19 at 01:06 -0500, James Bailie wrote: > > > > > Dev Tugnait wrote: > > > > > > The port is not broken cvsup your tree > > > > > > > > > > Yes it is. While some things work, it still does not create the > > > > > proper symbolic link for the acrobat plugin, nor is the path > > > > > for it correct in the sample libmap.confs. Beecher's fix will > > > > > correct. > > > > > > > > The only thing it doesnt do is create symbolic links which does not > > > > mark a port as BROKEN for one, secondly why would you remove your > > > > browser_plugins dir? > > > > > > That was a typo, read the followup I sent immediately following the > > > first message. Secondly putting plugins in browser_linux_plugins does > > > break firefox and mozilla. I would call that broken where I come from. > > > Users should not have to move things that were installed in the wrong > > > place. That's the job of the port. > > > > You were very quick with your correction of the typo. Faster than some > > of us read their mails ;-) > > Secondly, I totally agree to the statement that the port is "broken" > > You have too much to manually correct. > > At the time I was not aware of the facts and lost quite some time > > finding out. If you know, it's not that kind of a deal. > > Even though I'm not a programmer, I'm looking into fixing that port. I've > tried contacting the maintainer and didn't get any response. If I manage to > get it working I'll file a PR. The linuxpluginwrapper has been broken since > the last upgrade, acroread way before that and it took me many hours to find > all the fixes necessary (thank you everyone who helped me with that issue). > If nothing else, I'll write all those changes into a script which will do it > automatically. I would think this would be a priority if FreeBSD is going to > be a viable desktop alternative. It's exactly this kind of situation that > causes new users to give up and go with the penguin, or worse go back to > micro$oft. I can't even tell someone to read the documentation, because there > isn't any. These fixes were scattered throughout many email threads that span > many months. > > If anyone needs a copy of my work-around it can be found at: > > http://akparadise.byethost33.com/freebsd/linuxpluginwrapper_how_to.txt > > Just my .02 > > Beech > I can sympathize about these linux program problems. I want to be able to listen to Real Audio streams, but as it is now I have to boot into Windows to do it. The linux-realplayer won't start because it can't find any fonts and it tells me to fix fontconfig. I never had problems with fonts before fontconfig came into being. I really have no idea why it exists. Moreover, I have no interest in learning XML, then cutting and pasting various config files together out of what little documentation exists for fontconfig. The documentation is so poor that I have no idea what I am doing anyway. Searches on Google and the mailing lists were no help either. It is very frustrating. I concur that some of these programs are just not desktop ready. At this rate I am never going to be able to get rid of XP on my laptop. Rob.