From owner-freebsd-chat Sun May 6 8:17:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mail.xmission.com (mail.xmission.com [198.60.22.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 524F437B423 for ; Sun, 6 May 2001 08:17:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rootman@xmission.com) Received: from [166.70.2.160] (helo=blackmirror.xmission.com) by mail.xmission.com with smtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 14wQHV-0008DT-00; Sun, 06 May 2001 09:17:09 -0600 From: Joe Warner Organization: Daemon News To: Brett Glass , Joseph Mallett Subject: Re: Is Brett Glass to easy on RMS? Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 09:11:11 -0600 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Cc: "G. Adam Stanislav" , References: <4.3.2.7.2.20010506012424.045f37f0@localhost> In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20010506012424.045f37f0@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01050609164800.01660@blackmirror.xmission.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org (Yawn)..Sorry, I had to sleep. Yes, this article only confirms what I've already read and heard from other sources. What good is money if you don't have the time to spend it? Wasn't it Confucius that said; "All things in moderation." ? Joe On Sun, 06 May 2001, Brett Glass wrote: > Working for Microsoft can, indeed, be selling your soul. Even if you're > supposedly an independent contractor, but much more so if you're an > actual employee. See the Salon article "Coder on the Cross," at > > http://salon.com/tech/feature/2001/05/02/sacrifice/print.html > > which describes the experience of someone who goes to work at > a startup run by former Microsoft execs. > > --Brett > > At 10:16 PM 5/5/2001, Joe Warner wrote: > > > >Yes, it's certainly true that they pay well but that in itself comes with a > >price. In order to get paid well, you basically have to sell your soul > >to them. A guy I work with said that he has a neighbor who works for > >them and a typical work week is 60 hours and it's not because he's > >a work-a-holic, it's because it's standard policy. > > > > > >Joe > > > > > > > >On Sat, 05 May 2001, Joseph Mallett wrote: > >> And FSF's Own the world is not a threat why? At least MS doesn't want to > >> force anyone in industry to work for nothing -- they pay well. > >> > >> FSF wants programmers to die out. I second Brett's recommendation of > >> 'Hackers', it explains the big bad crazy man quite well. > >> > >> -- > >> [ Joseph Mallett ] > >> [ xMach Core Team xMach: Proactively Unbloated Microkernel BSD ] > >> [ Proud Open/Free/Net/4.4BSD User; C Programmer; Mad ] [ www.xMach.org ] > >> > >> Support my computer addiction buy something from http://www.jmallett.org > >-- > >Joe Warner > >Daemon News > >Bringing BSD Together > >Daemon News E-Zine http://www.daemonnews.org > >Daily Daemon News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ > >Print Magazine http://magazine.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message