From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Aug 30 15: 3:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8E5B37B400 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 2002 15:03:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from directvinternet.com (dsl-65-185-140-165.telocity.com [65.185.140.165]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7261443E4A for ; Fri, 30 Aug 2002 15:03:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nwestfal@directvinternet.com) Received: from Tolstoy.home.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by directvinternet.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7UM1iGd089764; Fri, 30 Aug 2002 15:01:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nwestfal@directvinternet.com) Received: from localhost (nwestfal@localhost) by Tolstoy.home.lan (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) with ESMTP id g7UM1hFW089761; Fri, 30 Aug 2002 15:01:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: Tolstoy.home.lan: nwestfal owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 15:01:43 -0700 (PDT) From: "Neal E. Westfall" X-X-Sender: nwestfal@Tolstoy.home.lan To: Giorgos Keramidas Cc: Drew Raines , Subject: Re: Why did evolution fail? In-Reply-To: <20020830203058.GE16588@hades.hell.gr> Message-ID: <20020830145233.Y89720-100000@Tolstoy.home.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 30 Aug 2002, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2002-08-30 11:11 +0000, Drew Raines wrote: > > Society doesn't define morality, it defiles the morality God > > defined. Sin keeps us from delighting in the true morality of > > his Word. We settle for temporary pleasures of the creation > > instead of infinite pleasure in the Creator. > > What "Creator"? You are begging the question. If the thesis is that sin keeps you from knowing the Creator, asking "What Creator" is just confirmation of the thesis. You have two options: 1) Stop sinning. (With man this is impossible) 2) Refute the premise that you are a sinner. Cheers! Neal To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message