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Date:      Fri, 18 Sep 2015 07:07:59 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Roger Marquis <marquis@roble.com>
To:        freebsd-security@freebsd.org
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: HTTPS on freebsd.org, git, reproducible builds
In-Reply-To: <20150918134659.GB28949@FreeBSD.org>
References:  <CAD2Ti2_YNkNi2b=PzFCwu3PVaP8hOzADys3=-k0AqvsDRhJpzA@mail.gmail.com> <86vbb7dhaa.fsf@nine.des.no> <20150918134659.GB28949@FreeBSD.org>

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Glen Barber wrote:
> In fact, Debian has been kind enough to even provide a page that shows
> which parts of the FreeBSD build are non-reproducible.
>
> https://reproducible.debian.net/freebsd/freebsd.html

This issue is one of the reasons secure sites do not use binary packages
or freebsd-update.  It also illustrates problems admins have when
required to buildworld/installworld when all they should need to do is
"cd /usr/src/crypro/openssh&&make install" (for example).  Does anyone
have a link to the archived discussion detailing why this functionality
was deprecated?

These are good and timely subjects given recently published details of
NSA/5 eyes methodologies as well as the issues freebsd security teams
were having as recently as a few months ago.

Roger Marquis

Refs.
   https://igurublog.wordpress.com/2014/04/08/julian-assange-debian-is-owned-by-the-nsa/
   http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/debian-project-aims-keep-cia-our-computers
   http://www.tedunangst.com/flak/post/reproducible-builds-are-a-waste-of-time



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