Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2014 12:10:04 -0400 From: Michael Jung <mikej@paymentallianceintl.com> To: "Marat N.Afanasyev" <amarat@li.ru>, =?utf-8?B?SmVhbi1Tw6liYXN0aWVuIFDDqWRyb24=?= <dumbbell@freebsd.org>, Claude Buisson <clbuisson@orange.fr>, Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@freebsd.org>, "ports@freebsd.org" <ports@freebsd.org>, "stable@freebsd.org" <stable@freebsd.org>, "freebsd-x11@freebsd.org" <freebsd-x11@freebsd.org> Subject: RE: Removal of legacy X.Org (aka non-WITH_NEW_XORG) Message-ID: <CE3228E2C273EA4A9DC12FA75E921B8C4E4F899B09@PAIMAIL.pai.local> In-Reply-To: <542EC48E.2000507@li.ru> References: <20141003083051.GA52332@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <542E6606.9050205@orange.fr> <542E6B4D.10208@FreeBSD.org> <542EC48E.2000507@li.ru>
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I hope this may be an additional data point. I also had grave issues with NEW_XORG. When I did experience a problem 99% of the time the computer locked up. My uptime was never more than a 24 hour period. No crash dumps, black screen, no keyboard light activity in toggling caps lock. However, on occasion Xorg would loop as reported in http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2014-June/050690.html I finally noticed that Xorg was complaining about xfdevhw not being available and so I installed the port. Since then zero lockups. I left the machine run with no additional update or changes for over one week without issue, and have since that time been updating Xorg and drivers without issue short of having to always re-install xf86-input-keyboard (and in past both xf86-input-keyboard and xf86-input-mouse). My current Xorg.log reports [ 486.836] (II) Loading sub module "fbdevhw" [ 486.836] (II) LoadModule: "fbdevhw" [ 486.836] (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/libfbdevhw.so [ 486.836] (EE) LoadModule: Module fbdevhw does not have a fbdevhwModuleData data object. [ 486.836] (II) UnloadModule: "fbdevhw" [ 486.836] (II) Unloading fbdevhw [ 486.836] (EE) Failed to load module "fbdevhw" (invalid module, 0) [ 486.836] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for fbdev so why this apparently made a difference I do not understand. I am by no means an expert and this may not be relevant at all but this seems to be the right audience. This was my course of events and X11 still is working great for me. I can supply any additional information if requested, I am on X.Org X Server 1.12.4 / 10.1-BETA1 --mikej -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Marat N.Afanasyev Sent: Friday, October 03, 2014 11:45 AM To: Jean-Sébastien Pédron; Claude Buisson; Baptiste Daroussin; ports@freebsd.org; stable@freebsd.org; freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Removal of legacy X.Org (aka non-WITH_NEW_XORG) Jean-Sébastien Pédron wrote: > On 03.10.2014 11:01, Claude Buisson wrote: >> NVIDIA does not exist in your world ? > > Hi! > > You're right, we forgot to mention NVIDIA. > > The NVIDIA port installs its own bits from the kernel module to the > specific libGL.so. The notion of "UMS/KMS" doesn't exist and the port is > made to work with all versions of FreeBSD and X.Org server. Therefore, > NVIDIA users are not impacted by this change at all. > I think that old X stack should not be dropped until at least, GPU locking problem is resolved, what we can say about Xorg stability under FreeBSD if one should reset one's desktop every week or so with lots of lost files? I cannot really use KMS drivers at all because of this problem. I've lost enough data while trying to test radeon kms, and I cannot switch from old xorg to new one. Is it possible to build new xorg without kms and with old radeon driver? -- SY, Marat GoPai.com | Facebook.com/PaymentAlliance CONFIDENTIALITY NOTE: This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify us by telephone at (502) 212-4001 or notify us at PAI , Dept. 99, 6060 Dutchmans Lane, Suite 320, Louisville, KY 40205
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