From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Jul 9 19:24:30 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4563E37B400; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 19:24:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cage.simianscience.com (cage.simianscience.com [64.7.134.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4627543E42; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 19:24:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from house.sentex.net (fcage [192.168.0.2]) by cage.simianscience.com (8.12.5/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6A2ONp9064260; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 22:24:23 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020709220904.07342970@192.168.0.12> X-Sender: mdtancsa@192.168.0.12 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2002 22:24:23 -0400 To: Ken Gunderson From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: intel etherexpress pro and fxp status?? Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20020709144436.B12572@kasilof.boi.hp.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020709125431.03fade00@marble.sentex.ca> <20020709102153.A14126@kasilof.boi.hp.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20020709125431.03fade00@marble.sentex.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: amavis-20020220 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 02:44 PM 7/9/2002 -0600, Ken Gunderson wrote: >interestingly enough, a co-worker >informs me these cards are causing a lot fo grief under load in >quite a number of linux boxes deployed in hp datacenters. Hi, LINUX driver != FreeBSD driver. Just because one might have problems doesnt have any bearing on the stability/performance on the other OS. >apparently the cards just become overwhelmed about once or twice >per month and just hang until reset. chip in these cards is the >82557. there were numerous issues with fxp around 4.6rc time, Numerous issues ? Remember also people post to the list when they have problems. No one posts, "Hi, I am using the fxp and dont have any problems. Thanks, bye." The only threads I remember around this were some people with specific problems on specific SMP motherboards. I dont recall any mass problems with the fxp cards... For what its worth, we have deployed some 50 servers on various MB incarnations in the past 4 years ranging from 440BX chipsets to recent 845s and apart from the hardware bug that dg@root.com noted and _one specific_ (VIA 82C598MVP) motherboard which would crash with intel nics in them, we have had excellent results with the fxp driver. YMMV. That being said, if you are just doing experimenting and network performance is not important, 8139 based realtek which you can probably buy at $5 each might be fine... YMMV For production boxes, I would go with Intels. Our news server for example has a good 30Mbit/s of traffic on it 7x24 and has Intel nics in it. The NICs, the OS all perform like champs. ---Mike -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Sentex Communications, mike@sentex.net Providing Internet since 1994 www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net/mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message