From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 11 9:56:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from moo.sysabend.org (moo.sysabend.org [63.86.88.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB70F37B403 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2001 09:56:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ragnar@sysabend.org) Received: by moo.sysabend.org (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 86C5B755D; Wed, 11 Jul 2001 09:57:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by moo.sysabend.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83C211D90; Wed, 11 Jul 2001 09:57:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 09:57:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Jamie Bowden To: Rahul Siddharthan Cc: Terry Lambert , Rasputin , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD Mall now BSDCentral In-Reply-To: <20010711112054.D93534@lpt.ens.fr> Message-ID: Approved: yep X-representing: Only myself. X-badge: We don't need no stinking badges. X-obligatory-profanity: Fuck X-moo: Moo. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 11 Jul 2001, Rahul Siddharthan wrote: :Terry Lambert said on Jul 10, 2001 at 09:56:58: :> :> Also, you should be aware that in commercial deployment, :> having a compiler on board the system is often considered :> a bad thing, as it permits entre to exploiters bringing :> their own programs onto the system. : :I've seen people disable compilers before, but I haven't understood :how it helps. You can compile elsewhere and bring the binary onto the :system, can't you? Unless the system is some extremely rare OS or :doesn't ship with a compiler at all -- neither of which is true of :FreeBSD. It's a barrier to entry. Not everyone has your FreeBSD release level at home, or Solaris, Irix, AIX, HP/UX, etc. readily available to them. With FreeBSD (and Linux) it's easier to overcome, but it requires more effort on the script kiddie contingent's part. They're your most likely attacker anyway, and anyone who really wants in isn't going to be derailed by anything but inplugging the machine and turning it off. Jamie Bowden -- "It was half way to Rivendell when the drugs began to take hold" Hunter S Tolkien "Fear and Loathing in Barad Dur" Iain Bowen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message