From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 01:01:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81786106564A for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 01:01:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adrian.chadd@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.229]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6682C8FC13 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 01:01:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adrian.chadd@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so2006883rvf.43 for ; Sat, 07 Jun 2008 18:01:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=3zUbCIG7w6cY6LNtlxkUJzLHz3+jv3MAZ8sPiembANk=; b=BkOF24Ejl8Aq0PrSsLZ6MMbHeKSXyKBcQL3xbzxFeT0vXRVLLxT6vE9Jga+sRkM9qu 2k1llCJYjdc6XPDYhFhRQeSkWFt/1lWaPlmPhxL5h4uOYsHvQvMNl90gpuD+U5Dgqxxa +hqK5Lk0dz/iVpmJloLdtz9oQ0taYWEfbiLRM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references:x-google-sender-auth; b=KNf8RsHLjTt6C60RkdwqatzgmP+BdFOQIc4Dr58CjGKqbpn0YZY4Os9jiGYWXS3Q4d ewcgRa/pvFdf3sDzUG3eYLvBZ4tuIIu2tA0xId4mHXZmsD92gc9BPs6VDd5cNn3dOKd2 VxStLgXY+SZy8LzlRwjZxYKKJMlUbuotcaMf8= Received: by 10.141.36.10 with SMTP id o10mr1087564rvj.176.1212886906200; Sat, 07 Jun 2008 18:01:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.70.11 with HTTP; Sat, 7 Jun 2008 18:01:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 09:01:46 +0800 From: "Adrian Chadd" Sender: adrian.chadd@gmail.com To: "Jo Rhett" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <9B7FE91B-9C2E-4732-866C-930AC6022A40@netconsonance.com> <20080604204325.GD4701@lava.net> <20080604234532.GA89656@k7.mavetju> <458FE12C-AE4D-48F9-8193-4663079CEEF8@netconsonance.com> <84EBEA5D3A1F47E79E8E12C4CF4D0314@multiplay.co.uk> <7B8FD1A1E7DA49DFA68252BF9C74AE6F@multiplay.co.uk> <1A050712-3D0F-4263-A9F8-EE4AD042486E@netconsonance.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 906573887d3969ca Cc: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: challenge: end of life for 6.2 is premature with buggy 6.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 01:01:46 -0000 2008/6/8 Jo Rhett : >> If stability is your main concern then you could throw some resources >> at fixing 6.3 or throw some resources at backporting security fixes to >> 6.2. > > I will apparently be backporting the security fixes myself until 6.4 ships. And if you do, someone (or me, if noone bothers) will be quite happy to commit them to the release branch. >> I'm sure noone has an agenda to squish the FreeBSD version you're >> using for any reason other than there aren't enough people >> volunteering / being paid to work on back-porting security fixes. > > > This is perhaps the real topic that needs to be addressed. Can we get some > more details on the issues involved here? .. There isn't much to say. There aren't enough people putting in their volunteer time to work on this. If you / your company is willing to begin fixing this problem by contributing back to the community, I bet the security team will be quite happy to work with you to get the work done. And you get that fuzzy, warm feeling from contributing to an open source project. :) If everyone who wants 6.2 to be maintained longer wants to put in a couple hours a week of time to help maintain and backport stuff, I think we as a project would be stupid to say no. You just have to be prepared to do the work and be honest enough to say when you're unable to do it anymore. Anyway, this thread is making people upset. :) Adrian -- Adrian Chadd - adrian@freebsd.org