Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 22:45:28 +0200 From: Matthias Andree <mandree@FreeBSD.org> To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How are [MAINTAINER] patches handled and why aren't PRs FIFO? Message-ID: <4DB9D1E8.50204@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20110428155535.6cad9970@seibercom.net> References: <4DB7B237.7000603@marino.st> <BANLkTinoGufNYZmkFgQmwGR4RjBXWXcDTA@mail.gmail.com> <20110427075436.70ae18ac@seibercom.net> <19896.4396.161941.282904@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20110427093258.3966cfd2@seibercom.net> <20110427134836.GA30085@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <20110427101257.414aaf8b@seibercom.net> <4DB89EB5.2010603@FreeBSD.org> <20110427192555.65add0de@seibercom.net> <4DB97422.5090102@FreeBSD.org> <20110428155535.6cad9970@seibercom.net>
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Am 28.04.2011 21:55, schrieb Jerry: > On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 16:05:22 +0200 > Matthias Andree <mandree@FreeBSD.org> articulated: > >> Am 28.04.2011 01:25, schrieb Jerry: >>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 00:54:45 +0200 >>> Olli Hauer <ohauer@FreeBSD.org> articulated: >>> >>>> Maybe you have some time to spend? >>> >>> Before I could reasonable be expected to set aside time, I would >>> need a detailed job description, etcetera. Perhaps you can supply >>> me with one? >> >> See, and that's what committers might think, too: 'before I do lots of >> paperwork, I get something else done.' Be that some PR filed by >> someone else than you, or reading a book rather than doing ports >> work. :-) Counting recreation into "something else" because it's also >> useful to make any headway sustainably. > > No disrespect meant; however, I just showed your response to two other > individuals who both concurred with me that your reply is nonsensical. > Would you please rewrite it in basic English using proper sentence > structure. Perhaps we should start at the beginning. Do you know what a > "Job Description" <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Job_description>; > actually is? Neither did I mean disrespect. What I'm saying is: You expect a job description before committing more of your time and working power to volunteer work on FreeBSD ports. However, for a FreeBSD committer, I can fancy not all of them are interested in something that gets too formal -- which would be a consequence of PR FIFO assignments or similar. Their idea is to care about some set of ports they are interested in, have a need in, and also have some expertise on. A clear job description with strict "fail to respond on stuff you hardly know and have no interest in X times in Y weeks and get all other work privileges removed" is what I alluded to when writing "paperwork". Personally, I would rather want to contribute to something where I can just work on some of the ports, rather than having someone else assign me PRs. I am fully aware that we cannot *guarantee* any service level this way. And I've myself been in situations when I had to accept that committers (or packagers for other projects) priorize (prioritize?, anyways, rank in their ordering of the tasks) my PR different than I'd hoped for. I may have found that unfair, but talking about starting at the beginning, not everybody's idea of "fair" will be the same. :-) Now I fail to see what incentive you'll provide to committers so that they actually adhere to an external PR assignment. While I'm only speaking on my behalf through the whole discussion, I read between other people's lines that I'm not alone with this opinion. I hope that is clearer now.
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