From owner-cvs-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 4 14:55:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cvs-doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: cvs-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EAFB16A407; Mon, 4 Dec 2006 14:55:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joel@FreeBSD.org) Received: from av7-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (av7-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.181]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C6B943CA2; Mon, 4 Dec 2006 14:54:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joel@FreeBSD.org) Received: by av7-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 3DD8F37F32; Mon, 4 Dec 2006 15:55:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp3-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (smtp3-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.102]) by av7-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2078537EFE; Mon, 4 Dec 2006 15:55:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from dude.automatvapen.se (81-234-214-163-no68.tbcn.telia.com [81.234.214.163]) by smtp3-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9751D37E65; Mon, 4 Dec 2006 15:55:30 +0100 (CET) From: Joel Dahl To: Robert Watson In-Reply-To: <20061203223415.D69580@fledge.watson.org> References: <200612031944.kB3Ji1Ma081957@repoman.freebsd.org> <45732F01.6040204@FreeBSD.org> <20061203223415.D69580@fledge.watson.org> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 15:55:30 +0100 Message-Id: <1165244130.691.40.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Remko Lodder , doc-committers@FreeBSD.org, Marc Fonvieille , cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, cvs-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: www/share/sgml header.ent www/en/layout/css layout.css www/en index.xsl X-BeenThere: cvs-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the doc and www trees List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 14:55:32 -0000 On Sun, 2006-12-03 at 22:51 +0000, Robert Watson wrote: > On Sun, 3 Dec 2006, Remko Lodder wrote: > > > Marc Fonvieille wrote: > >> blackend 2006-12-03 19:44:01 UTC > >> > >> FreeBSD doc repository > >> > >> Modified files: > >> share/sgml header.ent en/layout/css layout.css > >> en index.xsl Log: > >> Put the Foundation link on the top navbar. > >> Requested by: rwatson > >> Approved by: doceng > > > > Isn't this something we should discuss on www@ ? We mostly had the idea that > > if something was to be added on the pages we should remove something to > > refrain from getting overloaded again. That said; we still have multiple > > reported issues which should be resolved prior to adding these kind of > > links. > > > > I would like to see at least some discussion on www@ first so could you > > please ponder on backing out this change till this had been discussed? > > Hmm. I would really prefer we keep the highly visible top-of-page link for > the Foundation while the details are sorted it out, rather than removing it. > The Foundation is about $140k in the red on our annual budget right now, and > we're in the throes of a fundraising campaign to try to raise the funds to pay > for next year's developer travel, conference sponsorshop (AsiaBSDCon, > EuroBSDCon, BSDCan), developer summits, etc. I appreciate the need to go > about things the right way, hence our contacting doceng to request the change Contacting doceng is definitely not the right way to do it. Instead, sending a request to www@ with the above information about the foundation fundraise would be a far better thing to do. I would add the link to the foundation instantly if I see such a request on www@ (your mail sat in doceng's inbox for a week before anything happened according to Marc, so I really don't see how that can be considered the fastest solution). Anyway, right now we have three links to the foundation on the front page: one in the news box, one at the bottom, and the fresh link Marc just added. We also have a "Donate" link at the top which leads to the donation page where you can find some additional info about donating to FreeBSD/The Foundation. This is not ideal at all. I'd like a link on the front page that leads _directly_ to http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/donate/ with the text "Donate to FreeBSD" or something equivalent. Where should we put it you might ask? Well, remove the "Text size: Normal / Large | Donate | Contact" string from the top of the page and replace it with the link I just suggested. The Normal/Large option is broken anyway and we could put the contact link at the bottom of the page instead, next to the legal stuff. -- Joel