From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 8 19:50:31 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 484FC16A41F; Tue, 8 Nov 2005 19:50:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jmg@hydrogen.funkthat.com) Received: from hydrogen.funkthat.com (gate.funkthat.com [69.17.45.168]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C763F43D64; Tue, 8 Nov 2005 19:50:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jmg@hydrogen.funkthat.com) Received: from hydrogen.funkthat.com (localhost.funkthat.com [127.0.0.1]) by hydrogen.funkthat.com (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jA8JoRD6072350; Tue, 8 Nov 2005 11:50:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jmg@hydrogen.funkthat.com) Received: (from jmg@localhost) by hydrogen.funkthat.com (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id jA8JoQ5d072349; Tue, 8 Nov 2005 11:50:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jmg) Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 11:50:26 -0800 From: John-Mark Gurney To: Colin Percival Message-ID: <20051108195026.GR775@funkthat.com> Mail-Followup-To: Colin Percival , freebsd@voidmain.net, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Richard Bejtlich References: <120ef0530511041210s6d3dbee8pc2db36129b44be2c@mail.gmail.com> <436BCA7B.6060700@voidmain.net> <4370D0A9.4030707@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4370D0A9.4030707@freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE-p6 i386 X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 EC EF F8 AE ED A7 31 96 7A 22 B3 D8 56 36 F4 X-Files: The truth is out there X-URL: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ X-Resume: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/resume.html Cc: Richard Bejtlich , freebsd@voidmain.net, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What should be in GENERIC? (was Re: Facilitating binary kernel upgrades) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: John-Mark Gurney List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 19:50:31 -0000 Colin Percival wrote this message on Tue, Nov 08, 2005 at 08:22 -0800: > In deciding what options should go into the GENERIC kernel, I think the > question we should be asking is not "how many people use this?", but > instead "would adding this option inconvenience more people than it would > help?". GENERIC is already so large, that if you want/need a smaller kernel, you're going to rebuild anyways, so the only people it truely inconviences are the people who just want their system to work w/o extra work... >From 5.4-R: -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 5896397 May 8 2005 /boot/kernel.GENERIC/kernel* -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 3508960 Sep 4 15:29 /boot/kernel/kernel* Since I care about that extra 2megs, I recompiled my own kernel, but most systems these days a couple megs isn't that big of a deal, and if you're trying to fit it on a small system, you'll care, and you'll need to recompile anyways... If it doesn't conflict, add it. :) -- John-Mark Gurney Voice: +1 415 225 5579 "All that I will do, has been done, All that I have, has not."