From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 18 23:38:24 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCA8D106564A for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2011 23:38:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jherman@dichotomia.fr) Received: from mail.dichotomia.fr (hydrogen.dichotomia.net [91.121.82.228]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 783CC8FC08 for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2011 23:38:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.18] (unknown [178.33.164.134]) (Authenticated sender: kha@dichotomia.fr) by sslmail.dichotomia.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 521703DD034 for ; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 01:35:18 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4E24C416.9020207@dichotomia.fr> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 01:39:02 +0200 From: Jerome Herman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110624 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20110717071059.25971662@scorpio> <4E22DFE9.7050007@pathscale.com> <201107172016.30727.lobo@bsd.com.br> <4E23989F.7010701@gmail.com> <4e242fab.s4vpgxxZEUq0LFDq%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <1311017168.44397.YahooMailRC@web36508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <23159_1311031267_4E24BFE3_23159_38_1_D9B37353831173459FDAA836D3B43499C5218659@WADPMBXV0.waddell.com> In-Reply-To: <23159_1311031267_4E24BFE3_23159_38_1_D9B37353831173459FDAA836D3B43499C5218659@WADPMBXV0.waddell.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (sslmail.dichotomia.fr); Tue, 19 Jul 2011 01:35:18 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 23:38:24 -0000 On 19/07/2011 01:21, Gary Gatten wrote: > > > This may get me flamed (probably will) but I'm wondering what the relationship is between FreeBSD and PC-BSD? PERHAPS if they were to somehow join forces, share development load, etc. and "unify" the FreeBSD offerings under one roof; ie: PC-BSD and SERVER-BSD. Basically, PC-BSD is just a layer of candy over an almost untouched FreeBSD, so it is not the same at all than what you can see with Linux distros. PC-BSD offers a graphical and simple installer, and an arguably easier package system. Also it installs KDE and automatically makes a few decisions. You can actually just use the graphical installer in order to install a standard FreeBSD, even if some tricky options won't be available from the installer (but you can still run sysinstall later to activate them) I personnally use it as an easy installer for Crypto-ZFS servers. > > I believe several flavors of Linux have successfully done this. Perhaps for licensing reasons more than technical, but nonetheless there were two offerings each focused on either a desktop or server deployment strategy. > > Just a thought. I'm not married to any particular OS - it's a tool and I use what suites my needs best. I enjoy FreeBSD and like what it stands for - I would like to see it grow; both technically and in popularity. Well the PC-BSD layer gives a great installer, now the only thing needed would be a great server/daemons management layer. But that is very tough to create. Some dedicated distributions exists that do have this layer, such as FreeNAS or PFSense. But I am not a big fan of either. The thing is, once you get the hang of FreeBSD, you end up missing the additional options and tweaks that an automated GUI will necessarily hide. A FreeBSD distro with LDAP, ACL and MAC management would be nice though. > > Now, if only FreeBSD could find a mascot that didn't offend me so much... > > > G > > PS: yes, I'm being sarcastic about being offended; referring to threads that pop up on occasion re "Beastie" > > > > > > >
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