From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Sep 28 22:51:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA19063 for chat-outgoing; Sun, 28 Sep 1997 22:51:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from obie.softweyr.ml.org ([199.104.124.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA19056 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 1997 22:51:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from wes@localhost) by obie.softweyr.ml.org (8.7.5/8.6.12) id AAA22484; Mon, 29 Sep 1997 00:00:46 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 00:00:46 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199709290600.AAA22484@obie.softweyr.ml.org> From: Wes Peters To: Peter Korsten CC: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Microsoft brainrot (was: r-cmds and DNS and /etc/host.conf) In-Reply-To: <19970929021451.28241@grendel.IAEhv.nl> References: <19970927143934.ZN26834@uriah.heep.sax.de> <199709272127.OAA11524@usr08.primenet.com> <19970928101941.03210@lemis.com> <19970928162256.26698@grendel.IAEhv.nl> <19970929021451.28241@grendel.IAEhv.nl> Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Peter Korsten writes: > Knowing Microsoft, I wouldn't invest too much time in devising > all kinds of user interfaces based on TCL, Java or Motif, to > keep up with them. A GUI still is a good idea (networking, for > instance, is scattered over several files in /etc), but I guess > it's browsers from now on, brought to us in the usual gentle MS > way. Hey, I release my first web-based interface before they did, let's not start crediting Bill with designed the WWW as well. ;^) If you think about it, having a WWW-driver user interface makes a lot of sense for those of us pushing "alternative" programming environments. If we're trying to convince people to put a FreeBSD based server into their existing Win95 (or Mac, or whatever) environment, what better configuration vehicle can we give them, than the machine already on their desktop? This is not to say this is an easy row to hoe: the iStation user interface took 3-4 engineers, a full-time web designer, and the skills of the entire graphic arts deparment at Dayna several months to complete. We have a custom server, Java code, JavaScript code, and hundreds of hours of test time in this, and it's barely started yet! Still, the idea of configuring your high-flying FreeBSD do-everything server from Pocket Explorer via IrDA tickles me. ;^) -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC http://www.xmission.com/~softweyr softweyr@xmission.com