From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 30 20:04:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA26475 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 20:04:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shrimp.dataplex.net (shrimp.dataplex.net [208.2.87.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA26462 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 20:04:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [208.2.87.4] (user4.dataplex.net [208.2.87.4]) by shrimp.dataplex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA11498; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 22:03:52 -0500 (CDT) X-Sender: rkw@mail.dataplex.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <14878.870303204@time.cdrom.com> References: Your message of "Wed, 30 Jul 1997 14:04:33 +0200." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 22:01:02 -0500 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" From: Richard Wackerbarth Subject: On the subject of ISP Administration Cc: Vincent Poy , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 5:53 PM -0500 7/30/97, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: >What's the deal here? Did >somebody drop a million matchbooks over the U.S. saying "become an ISP >and make tons of $$$ in your spare time ... No, it wasn't matchbooks. It arrives every hour in the "spam mail". :-) By the way, if you don't recognize that "SPAM" is a registered trademark of Hormel, you, like many others, may not be qualified to do ISP administration either. Seriously, those of us who have been around since the "dark ages" need to remember that there is a fine line between mentoring and putting those "think they know it all whippersnappers" in their place. There is a saying about wisdom which is something to the effect that once you pass through the teen years, your father becomes more intellegent every year. ... Let's ALL try to do a better job of learning rather than whining and mentoring rather than berating. PS: This is not directed at Jordan. He does a much better job of it than most of us. ... But, for the rest, "if the Foo shits, wear it." And I, too, think that the subject has been beaten to death ...