From owner-freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Sun Nov 18 15:09:32 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 331C11104D29 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2018 15:09:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tuexen@fh-muenster.de) Received: from drew.franken.de (mail-n.franken.de [193.175.24.27]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.franken.de", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 90B2182574 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2018 15:09:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tuexen@fh-muenster.de) Received: from [192.168.1.9] (p57BB4979.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [87.187.73.121]) (Authenticated sender: macmic) by mail-n.franken.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 750CF721E2821; Sun, 18 Nov 2018 16:09:28 +0100 (CET) From: Michael Tuexen Message-Id: <7C5460A1-EFE3-4129-AC3A-41A80DA17B02@fh-muenster.de> Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_4ABA134B-F4DF-489C-8B62-2FB1A1144A52"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha-256 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.1 \(3445.101.1\)) Subject: Re: these are the sort of things that would fry a new user Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2018 16:09:27 +0100 In-Reply-To: Cc: Michael Tuexen , FreeBSD PowerPC ML To: Dennis Clarke References: <6c26e8f7-a710-460e-1d37-ff649f698530@blastwave.org> <47e6f155-775b-5612-2f6a-9a9b723659c4@blastwave.org> <0C021CC4-6C1C-4A75-B2D6-D4CEE92CBD10@fh-muenster.de> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.101.1) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on mail-n.franken.de X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 90B2182574 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.87 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[27.24.175.193.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; SIGNED_SMIME(-2.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; HAS_ATTACHMENT(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[fh-muenster.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx1.fh-muenster.de]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.04)[-0.042,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.02)[asn: 680(-0.09), country: DE(-0.01)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:680, ipnet:193.174.0.0/15, country:DE]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2018 15:09:32 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_4ABA134B-F4DF-489C-8B62-2FB1A1144A52 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > On 18. Nov 2018, at 14:17, Dennis Clarke wrote: > > >> Just checkout the code in https://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/head/ via svn. >> This is where development happens. > > cool. > >> I'm building kernel/world on the PowerMac... > > Must be a doc somewhere that gives pointers on how to get that going? > >>> >>>> 1. After a while the fans get louder. Running sysctl -a dev.fcu.0 >>>> gets them down again. After a while they will start to get >>>> louder again. >>> >>> Nope that isn't happening with whatever I am running here. >> OK. Which PowerMac are you using? > > dmesg says : > > cpu0: IBM PowerPC 970MP revision 1.1, 18446744071914.97 MHz > cpu0: Features dc000000 > cpu0: HID0 1511081 > real memory = 2108362752 (2010 MB) > avail memory = 2012155904 (1918 MB) > random: unblocking device. > random: entropy device external interface > kbd0 at kbdmux0 > ofwbus0: on nexus0 > cpulist0: on ofwbus0 > cpu0: on cpulist0 > pcr0: on cpu0 > cpu1: on cpulist0 > pcr1: on cpu1 > cpu2: on cpulist0 > pcr2: on cpu2 > cpu3: on cpulist0 > pcr3: on cpu3 > > > So I guess this is what the Apple folks called the "quad". OK. Just to double check: The problem with the fans getting louder is something you do not observe when SMP is enabled? If SMP is disabled I don't see this problem... That is why I suggested to disable SMP... 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