From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 10 13:04:23 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37ED21065673 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:04:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.smeelen@ose.nl) Received: from mail.ose.nl (mail.ose.nl [212.178.134.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A5318FC13 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:04:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.ose.nl for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 14:04:20 +0100 Message-ID: <4D78CC54.6020907@ose.nl> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 14:04:20 +0100 From: Bas Smeelen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.14) Gecko/20110223 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4D782C8D.3020102@extracktor.com> <1299728031.72606.5.camel@server-3.juanyjosefina.com> <4D78804B.4040406@ose.nl> <1299756900.73766.5.camel@server-3.juanyjosefina.com> <4D78C832.6050301@ose.nl> In-Reply-To: <4D78C832.6050301@ose.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: any friendly folk willing to teach an old foggie how to configure kde/ gnome on freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:04:23 -0000 On 03/10/2011 01=3A46 PM=2C Bas Smeelen wrote=3A =3E On 03/10/2011 12=3A35 PM=2C Juan C=2E Valido wrote=3A =3E=3E A GUI on a server is just a matter of preference=2C I go back to bef= ore =3E=3E Dos 1=2E0 and when Windows came out=2C I fell in love=2E Now I=27ve= got to have =3E=3E a GUI on everything=2C besides as you get older the command line bec= omes =3E=3E harder =28memory loss=29=2E=2E=2E On the other hand=2C you might want to try PC-BSD=2E I think it is very well supported and up to date and comes with GUI parts= and the option to install as FreeBSD =3E Do you plan to update FreeBSD and installed ports on your servers on a= =3E regular basis=3F =3E Then I would not recommend installing graphical window ports =28applica= tions=29 =3E on these servers=2C because it can give you a lot of time=2C work e=2Eg= =2E =3E unnecessary hassle when upgrading/updating=2E =3E Webmin is a good GUI progam =28from client perspective=29 for administ= ering =3E your servers=2C it just runs in your clients webbrowser and you can adm= inister =3E almost every aspect of your servers with it=2E =3E Also you might want to take a look at=3A =3E http=3A//www=2Efreebsdforums=2Eorg/plesk-cpanel-dedicated-servers/ =3E =3E=3E On Thu=2C 2011-03-10 at 08=3A39 +0100=2C Bas Smeelen wrote=3A =3E=3E=3E On 03/10/2011 04=3A33 AM=2C Juan C=2E Valido wrote=3A =3E=3E=3E=3E I=27m an old =22foggie=22 also and a lifetime Windows guy and= I did a lot of =3E=3E=3E=3E research and a lot of trial and error until I found Dan=27s bl= og=2E God =3E=3E=3E=3E Bless the Man! Without his blog I would not have this server u= p=2E And yes =3E=3E=3E=3E it=27s running gnome=2E https=3A//www=2Edan=2Eme=2Euk/blog/cat= egory/freebsd/ =3E=3E=3E=3E =3E=3E=3E=3E On Thu=2C 2011-03-10 at 09=3A42 +0800=2C Foo JH wrote=3A =3E=3E=3E=3E=3E Hi guys=2C =3E=3E=3E=3E=3E =3E=3E=3E=3E=3E I know the steps are documented on the Handbook and all=2E= I=27ve tried to=20 =3E=3E=3E=3E=3E read=2C follow=2C and re-read the steps=2C but I=27m not st= ill getting any=20 =3E=3E=3E=3E=3E popular window manager up and running on my FreeBSD servers= =2E Meanwhile=20 =3E=3E=3E=3E=3E new hires are seduced by the comes-with-it windows manager= via Ubuntu=20 =3E=3E=3E=3E=3E Desktop =28yes=2C they abstained from the server edition be= cause they really=20 =3E=3E=3E=3E=3E wanted the GUI=29=2E =3E=3E=3E Hi =3E=3E=3E Why would you want a window manager on your servers=3F =3E=3E=3E Do you all work directly on the consoles=3F =3E=3E=3E Do you have window managers/desktop environments on the workstati= ons and =3E=3E=3E access your servers remotely=3F =3E=3E=3E It=27s not very hard=2C I would say it=27s easier=2C to configure= your servers and =3E=3E=3E services from the commandline with ssh=2E =3E=3E=3E Or if you really want something graphical then webmin would be fi= ne also=2E =3E=3E=3E This is what I tend to roll-out for other =3E=3E=3E =28graphical oriented=29 administrators and with some custom comm= ands configured =3E=3E=3E this works great for them=2E DISCLAIMER=3A This e-mail is for the intended recipient=28s=29 only=2E Acce= ss=2C disclosure=2C copying=2C distribution or reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited=2E If yo= u have received it by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system= =2E