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Date:      Thu, 10 Mar 2011 14:04:20 +0100
From:      Bas Smeelen <b.smeelen@ose.nl>
To:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: any friendly folk willing to teach an old foggie how to configure kde/ gnome on freebsd?
Message-ID:  <4D78CC54.6020907@ose.nl>
In-Reply-To: <4D78C832.6050301@ose.nl>
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On 03/10/2011 01=3A46 PM=2C Bas Smeelen wrote=3A
=3E On 03/10/2011 12=3A35 PM=2C Juan C=2E Valido wrote=3A
=3E=3E A GUI on a server is just a matter of preference=2C I go back to bef=
ore
=3E=3E Dos 1=2E0 and when Windows came out=2C I fell in love=2E Now I=27ve=
 got to have
=3E=3E a GUI on everything=2C besides as you get older the command line bec=
omes
=3E=3E harder =28memory loss=29=2E=2E=2E
On the other hand=2C you might want to try PC-BSD=2E
I think it is very well supported and up to date and comes with GUI parts=

and the option to install as FreeBSD

=3E Do you plan to update FreeBSD and installed ports on your servers on a=

=3E regular basis=3F
=3E Then I would not recommend installing graphical window ports =28applica=
tions=29
=3E on these servers=2C because it can give you a lot of time=2C work e=2Eg=
=2E
=3E unnecessary hassle when upgrading/updating=2E
=3E Webmin is a  good GUI progam =28from client perspective=29 for administ=
ering
=3E your servers=2C it just runs in your clients webbrowser and you can adm=
inister
=3E almost every aspect of your servers with it=2E
=3E Also you might want to take a look at=3A
=3E http=3A//www=2Efreebsdforums=2Eorg/plesk-cpanel-dedicated-servers/
=3E
=3E=3E On Thu=2C 2011-03-10 at 08=3A39 +0100=2C Bas Smeelen wrote=3A
=3E=3E=3E On 03/10/2011 04=3A33 AM=2C Juan C=2E Valido wrote=3A
=3E=3E=3E=3E I=27m an old =22foggie=22 also and a lifetime Windows guy and=
 I did a lot of
=3E=3E=3E=3E research and a lot of trial and error until I found Dan=27s bl=
og=2E God
=3E=3E=3E=3E Bless the Man! Without his blog I would not have this server u=
p=2E And yes
=3E=3E=3E=3E it=27s running gnome=2E https=3A//www=2Edan=2Eme=2Euk/blog/cat=
egory/freebsd/
=3E=3E=3E=3E
=3E=3E=3E=3E On Thu=2C 2011-03-10 at 09=3A42 +0800=2C Foo JH wrote=3A
=3E=3E=3E=3E=3E Hi guys=2C
=3E=3E=3E=3E=3E
=3E=3E=3E=3E=3E I know the steps are documented on the Handbook and all=2E=
 I=27ve tried to=20
=3E=3E=3E=3E=3E read=2C follow=2C and re-read the steps=2C but I=27m not st=
ill getting any=20
=3E=3E=3E=3E=3E popular window manager up and running on my FreeBSD servers=
=2E Meanwhile=20
=3E=3E=3E=3E=3E new hires are seduced by the comes-with-it windows manager=
 via Ubuntu=20
=3E=3E=3E=3E=3E Desktop =28yes=2C they abstained from the server edition be=
cause they really=20
=3E=3E=3E=3E=3E wanted the GUI=29=2E
=3E=3E=3E Hi
=3E=3E=3E Why would you want a window manager on your servers=3F
=3E=3E=3E Do you all work directly on the consoles=3F
=3E=3E=3E Do you have window managers/desktop environments on the workstati=
ons and
=3E=3E=3E access your servers remotely=3F
=3E=3E=3E It=27s not very hard=2C I would say it=27s easier=2C to configure=
 your servers and
=3E=3E=3E services from the commandline with ssh=2E
=3E=3E=3E Or if you really want something graphical then webmin would be fi=
ne also=2E
=3E=3E=3E This is what I tend to roll-out for other
=3E=3E=3E =28graphical oriented=29 administrators and with some custom comm=
ands configured
=3E=3E=3E this works great for them=2E



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