From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Apr 12 19:44:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA15814 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 19:44:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail1.realtime.net (mail1.realtime.net [205.238.128.217]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA15796 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 19:44:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jktheowl@bga.com) Received: (qmail 16958 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1998 02:44:25 -0000 Received: from zoom.realtime.net (HELO zoom.bga.com) (root@205.238.128.40) by mail1.realtime.net with SMTP; 13 Apr 1998 02:44:25 -0000 Received: from barnowl (apm7-205.realtime.net [204.96.0.205]) by zoom.bga.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA11988; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 21:44:21 -0500 Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 21:51:09 -0500 (CDT) From: John Kenagy X-Sender: jktheowl@barnowl To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: Frank Pawlak , chat@FreeBSD.ORG, danj@3skel.com, jmb@FreeBSD.ORG, toor@dyson.iquest.net, brett@lariat.org, mike@smith.net.au, dshanes@personalogic.com Subject: Re: Promoting FreeBSD - the user's piece of the action. In-Reply-To: <29092.892387190@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 12 Apr 1998, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: The sounds of battle looming remind me of Henry V and the St. Crispin speech. You know... paraphrasing "...they who don't stand with us this day will hold their manhood cheap." Henry speaking just before Agincourt. > > Perhaps a core team of volunteers modeled on the way the core > > development team operates will be just as effective in getting our job > > done as you are doing yours. Just as you are the leader of the core > > team our leader will arise from ongoing dialog and compilation of ideas > > that eventually jell into the business plan that I suggested, and our > > I've no problem with that idea at all. Moreover, I think that the > FreeBSD project has always strongly endorsed the concept of a > "management hierarchy", possibly more out of enlightened laziness than > anything else, since any reasonably effective hierarchy enables one to > not have to worry about a large number of things. I'd like to not > have to worry so much about grass-roots publicity and such, yes. :-) > > However, getting people genuinely willing to "manage" is harder than > it looks. Being willing to lead implies a long-term committment > and that scares a lot of people off. > I'll volunteer. It isn't as though I have time on my hands but I do know how to pioneer a product. And, I do know the value of a longbow. (evil grin) If you have questions, contact me, please. John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message