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Grimes" Cc: Robert Watson , "freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org" , Emmanuel Vadot , "freebsd-mips@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.25 X-BeenThere: freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Dedicated and Embedded Systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2017 01:42:01 -0000 On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 5:46 PM, Rodney W. Grimes < freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net> wrote: > > On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 5:28 PM, Rodney W. Grimes < > > freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net> wrote: > > > > > > Can you give me pointers to these boards for adm5120 and IDT? When > last I > > > > tried to get them 5 years ago they were hard to come by and generally > > > came > > > > with no more than 32M or 64M of memory. > > > > > > > > mips/rt305x has been subsumed by mips/mediatek, so will be deleted > w/o > > > loss > > > > of functionality. > > > > > > Please go back and read very carefully what the person said about > > > this. It was PLANNED to subsume rt305x into mediatek, but it has > > > NOT been done yet. At least that is how I read the persons > > > comments. > > > > > > That's not how I read it. I read it as "this is what we planned, and > we've > > arrived." However, out of an abundance of caution, I sent an email asking > > for confirmation. Code inspection certainly suggests that my > interpretation > > is correct. > > Thanks. Also you might want to ping the router projects folks, > as I believe many of the mips based routers use this SOC and > they may have info on which of the implementations work better, > and/or if the mediatek branch is up to speed and the rt305x > can just be axed. I know this project is out there someplace, > but can not find a link for it right now. And I have seen > some activity someplace from them in the last 3 or 4 months. It's their responsibility to feed back changes to the project if they have them. As far as I can tell in my brief research, they don't have anything relevant. Warner > > Warner > > > > > > > > > > > I'm curious what benefit sibyte has apart from broadcom? It seems to > > > > support a super old broadcom chip that's way obsolete that has a > bunch of > > > > errata that need workarounds that aren't present in newer chips. > What am > > > I > > > > missing? > > > > > > > > Warner > > > > > > > > On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 5:03 AM, Michael Zhilin > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi Warner, > > > > > > > > > > If I can give my twopence worth, I think that adm5120 & idt are to > be > > > kept > > > > > for a while, there are few vintage boards (for instance, Mikrotik > from > > > > > Latvia) with good configuration (plenty of flash and RAM), sibyte > is > > > to be > > > > > part of broadcom and also kept for a while. > > > > > rt305x is still very popular and cheap (for instance, "3g router" > with > > > > > RT5350 from AliExpress, but I have one, not yet tested). > > > > > > > > > > And I don't know what is alchemy. :) > > > > > > > > > > Thank you! > > > > > P.S. Wish you Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you and your > > > family. > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 11:10 AM, Warner Losh > wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> I'd like to propose that we eliminate support for the following > > > before the > > > > >> FreeBSD 12 branch. > > > > >> > > > > >> adm5120 (most boards don't have enough memory, very old) > > > > >> alchemy (the au1xxxx port never really was finished, and boards > lack > > > > >> memory, very old) > > > > >> idt (only a few boards worked, most are long obsolete) > > > > >> rt305x (raylink kit is now out dated, at least I think so) > > > > >> sibyte (long obsolete, hard to get hardware) > > > > >> > > > > >> I thought I'd post a heads up here before I proposed this list to > > > arch@. > > > > >> > > > > >> We have enough exemplars these days we don't need to keep these > older > > > > >> ports > > > > >> around as examples anymore, and I have my doubts if we even work > on > > > these > > > > >> boards anymore. > > > > >> > > > > >> If I'm wrong about these being old, or that FreeBSD is no longer > > > running > > > > >> on > > > > >> them, please let me know. Thanks! > > > > >> > > > > >> Warner > > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > > >> freebsd-mips@freebsd.org mailing list > > > > >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mips > > > > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mips-unsubscribe@ > > > freebsd.org" > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > freebsd-mips@freebsd.org mailing list > > > > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mips > > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mips-unsubscribe@ > freebsd.org" > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Rod Grimes > > > rgrimes@freebsd.org > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-mips@freebsd.org mailing list > > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mips > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mips-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > -- > Rod Grimes > rgrimes@freebsd.org >