Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2015 18:43:31 +0100 From: Michelle Sullivan <michelle@sorbs.net> To: Sean Bruno <sbruno@freebsd.org> Cc: alexmcwhirter@triadic.us, freebsd-sparc64 <freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org>, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sparc64 doesn't care about you, and you shouldn't care about Sparc64 Message-ID: <563F89C3.8050007@sorbs.net> In-Reply-To: <563CB6FC.209@freebsd.org> References: <563A5893.1030607@freebsd.org> <20151104214451.GF47630@server.rulingia.com> <CAJ-VmokSfg_iuNP-MBT9VxHoxVbhGEkWtN6Oiy_ezbmhVMeteg@mail.gmail.com> <20151105232431.GE31432@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <CAJ-Vmo=kQgQMH5Fgrpgp6GZtAg4w-0tvAbeCEa%2Bweq8eu9pSsA@mail.gmail.com> <6189d48d3a178c4ebf501361c75de23f@triadic.us> <563CB6FC.209@freebsd.org>
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Sean Bruno wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA512 > > > > On 11/06/15 01:18, alexmcwhirter@triadic.us wrote: > >> So is the problem in question the lack of being able to use >> clang/llvm? Or that newer hardware is unsupported? sparc64 supports >> sun4u which is most boxes, Fujitsu Sparc64 boxes also work quite >> well. The only thing really missing is sun4v and a few drivers here >> and there. OpenBSD has support for almost all of the newer >> Sun/Oracle boxes, which shouldn't bee too hard to port over. >> >> http://www.openbsd.org/sparc64.html >> >> Because of the lack of sun4v support i have moved over to a custom >> illumos distro, but one of the things im working on there is to >> replace gcc with clang/llvm. If it means saving the sparc64 port i >> will gladly move some of my work over to freebsd. >> > > problem 1. the base clang/llvm doesn't support the FreeBSD sparc64 > target. This needs work, and hey, if someone wants to spend the time > to get things working, great. Let's move on it and modernize the target. > > problem 2. lack of development hardware in the FreeBSD project. I'm > not asking for people to buy the FreeBSD project 10-15 year old sparc > hardware and send it to us. We don't want it. If there is a push to > modernize support for Sparc machines, we can talk about aquiring new > machines and racking them up as reference boxes. If there are people > interested in modernizing CPU support, by all means, move forward and > do it. Don't let me stop you. > I would like to see it continue on sun4u, as I still have a load of sun4u boxes - quite capable boxes - and some that people can develop on if you want (I cannot code myself on Sun except for generic stuff in C so I'd not be much help on that front.) Michelle -- Michelle Sullivan http://www.mhix.org/
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