From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 8 08:14:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7A654D07 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 2013 08:14:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qc0-x229.google.com (mail-qc0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c01::229]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 34CB41C80 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 2013 08:14:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qc0-f169.google.com with SMTP id r5so1804703qcx.28 for ; Sun, 08 Dec 2013 00:14:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ZtRTdp/2X3z8y9Nm55TgNNYVkPzBZrLe/Xkj5vXC7uM=; b=R+raDUxyIJeIYTrPbpob+rY/RQY5dvsTbaqfRGK17j5Pb0ERglPgXJz/46xp876Br2 44TCBzWJ6qw//QCtzoITdJFRxYvNezpMz6jC+cW8qRqDsL4+iIC27mSJiyg+poyYnKI2 Ri8RzPgE/8MVpMW2QGMeZS9W2Ce45NP6hv455TU1dBBBaY7fywz15/2y6+qsYtvpI04e fiuL9wUiTt+FilAhglmYehN8zC3o+tsdK+C3+Dax+Oa0Xd/k58DQMjO5abl72IRbh0Cu UFUJWxQ02Q+BsXygtv+5a8pqOXGX+F1pBnNsvhv7rp36f4tDcvcLpY53T18TCWd7J2g/ AHjw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.49.35.112 with SMTP id g16mr22753122qej.13.1386490482939; Sun, 08 Dec 2013 00:14:42 -0800 (PST) Sender: adrian.chadd@gmail.com Received: by 10.224.53.200 with HTTP; Sun, 8 Dec 2013 00:14:42 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1386336219.4592.25.camel@debian> References: <1386221592.4385.16.camel@debian> <1386253808.8359.5.camel@debian> <1386328855.3871.38.camel@debian> <1386336219.4592.25.camel@debian> Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2013 00:14:42 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: z_ihpQvJQ6uy8npsh9lOE23V4kc Message-ID: Subject: Re: Why FreeBSD doesn't have a Gnome3 port? From: Adrian Chadd To: iijima yoshino Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions , Luca Ferrari X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2013 08:14:44 -0000 ... wow, there's a lot of hand-waving and speculation. Did anyone think to ask on x11@freebsd.org ? The xorg team is busy being as careful as possible in getting the new xorg / dri2 support enabled by default. Once that happens, please test it out. Thoroughly. Once that's all tested out, I think the plan is to import updated versions of things that are required in order to bring over the gtk updates and gnome3. -a On 6 December 2013 05:23, iijima yoshino wrote: > =E5=9C=A8 2013-12-06=E4=BA=94=E7=9A=84 13:36 +0100=EF=BC=8CLuca Ferrari= =E5=86=99=E9=81=93=EF=BC=9A >> On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 12:20 PM, iijima yoshino wrote: >> > And we could not request every developer to >> > put the portability No.1 when they try to write something. If I consid= er >> > about Linux/BSD, why don't Win/Mac/Solaries/Minix/Haiku/MenutOS... We = do >> > everything for ourselves, then the others. >> >> With regard to the specific question, gnome3, I believe we are not >> asking developers to keep portability as their number one issue. They >> simply have broken portability by themselves. Gnome was used as the >> main desktop on OpenSolaris, that is not Linux. But deciding to got >> for a Linux-tied subsystem they have deliberately chosen not to be >> portable. Is this right or wrong? I don't care, but we cannot ask >> FreeBSD (or any other OS) developers to port gnome3 when the gnome >> community itself has decided to break. Of course, is there is >> interest, someone will port. >> >> Luca > > Yeah,it's not a "right or wrong" problem, as "to be or not to be". > OpenBSD 5.4 supports Gnome 3.8 and PCBSD 10 will take Gnome3/Cinnamon > replacing Gnome2. > In fact, the FreeBSD can do but not do, Why? > Different philosophy? Bad compatibility? Dependencies conflict? No > interest? Something else? > Whatever the reason is, having an "evil" gnome3 port would never boom > the machine. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg"