From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jul 15 16:24:49 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34A6D64A212 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 2021 16:24:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf-mardorf@riseup.net) Received: from mx1.riseup.net (mx1.riseup.net [198.252.153.129]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "Sectigo RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4GQfpl5FN8z4fPM for ; Thu, 15 Jul 2021 16:24:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf-mardorf@riseup.net) Received: from fews2.riseup.net (fews2-pn.riseup.net [10.0.1.84]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "Sectigo RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4GQfpj4XR0zDyKM for ; Thu, 15 Jul 2021 09:24:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=riseup.net; s=squak; t=1626366285; bh=+W7jP0n/S2+WImDx9XB7NG+ZNgtcJ3gdCsh7gvHJcOY=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=e1FfRvJkkgMJUSMQu+3gaLQGweBu40gE9SXt6OIhOzG4OpBEYxxxUcEcUjuFNf7s7 I+Ff7AQb4m8u+/5k2K1v3/fcSkaPWR7WLuPysZaPnX31A7WzTk2EkZGHkqPh4ngY6l CUObRX4IemtF4AUssZW9qXO8nj0qasBw2GTFHCxE= X-Riseup-User-ID: E1EF40C236AA27AD3873228F0AF1BA9424571E387D2336F52C62B6F97A4A4408 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fews2.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4GQfpj0BhPz1yS7 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 2021 09:24:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2021 18:24:42 +0200 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What the hell starts pulseaudio?! Message-ID: <20210715182442.722507f6@archlinux> In-Reply-To: <65457cf2-37d2-5050-fa59-8926ea240baa@kicp.uchicago.edu> References: <5b18f5de-7aae-a226-88cd-a210507d5c5@gmail.com> <72194e9f-261c-c3da-996-f8e1bcad2164@gmail.com> <20210715063116.85e42de5c276f40c8920ee2c@sohara.org> <20210715105229.50fee7b3@archlinux> <23e852c3-b9f4-3e7a-777c-50ff3c222f16@gmail.com> <20210715112546.61525c25b44bb93c10b87f21@sohara.org> <5d8e1ddf-92d1-48a6-0b76-04e2a81077f7@kicp.uchicago.edu> <20210715163245.658c4b29@gumby.homeunix.com> <65457cf2-37d2-5050-fa59-8926ea240baa@kicp.uchicago.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4GQfpl5FN8z4fPM X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=riseup.net header.s=squak header.b=e1FfRvJk; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=riseup.net; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ralf-mardorf@riseup.net designates 198.252.153.129 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ralf-mardorf@riseup.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.60 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_GOOD(0.00)[198.252.153.129:from]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[riseup.net:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[riseup.net,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; SUBJECT_ENDS_EXCLAIM(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[198.252.153.129:from]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[198.252.153.129:from]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16652, ipnet:198.252.153.0/24, country:US]; SUBJECT_HAS_QUESTION(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[riseup.net:s=squak]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[198.252.153.129:from:127.0.2.255]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(-1.00)[riseup.net:dkim]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2021 16:24:49 -0000 On Thu, 15 Jul 2021 10:36:13 -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote: >Thanks for mentioning that. I did start using claws-mail, but after >some short time of using it I switched back to thunderbird, just >forgot what was the reason. I will need to revisit claws mail, I >figure. Advantage: GTK3 branch was official released a few days ago, I'm already using it for more than 6 month (on Linux). Not that I'm in favour of GTK3, it's just that GTK2 is discontinued. Disadvantage and most likely the reason for you to drop Claws: It's _not_ multi-threaded and incredible slow. While you wait that something incredible slow does finish, you can't do something else.