From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Feb 29 21:59:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-chat Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA17827 for chat-outgoing; Thu, 29 Feb 1996 21:59:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from grumble.grondar.za (root@grumble.grondar.za [196.7.18.130]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA17817 for ; Thu, 29 Feb 1996 21:59:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from grumble.grondar.za (mark@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grumble.grondar.za (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA05838; Fri, 1 Mar 1996 07:58:38 +0200 (SAT) Message-Id: <199603010558.HAA05838@grumble.grondar.za> To: invalid opcode cc: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: your mail Date: Fri, 01 Mar 1996 07:58:37 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk invalid opcode wrote: > Let me ammend my original opinion, yes my words were too harsh, but no, I > do not think this document is good. You site how Linus is not forcing > anything on anyone, well of course he isn't. Nobody has to listen to a > thing he says, just as nobody has to listen to anything anyone says. But > if you read his general attitude, he kind of purveys the image that if > you don't code in his style, that you automatically don't know what you > are doing, and should be rewriting your code. I find that imo, wrong. More like it! :-) Although if you had written a Un*x clone as popular as this, I think you would be entitled to a bit of arrogance. I'd quite like to see a bit of public debate on this, involving the Linux boys. (I'm sure this has been beaten to death there.) I am no Linux fan - I find it slow, unstable and untidy, but there are parts of it that are very good, and there are parts of the kernel that are extremely good. As an exercise for the Linux camp, I wouldn't mind checking the _whole_ of (say) slackware source into a CVS tree and inviting a core-team equivalent to clean it up. This could quite easily require a modification of the coding style. M -- Mark Murray 46 Harvey Rd, Claremont, Cape Town 7700, South Africa +27 21 61-3768 GMT+0200 Finger mark@grondar.za for PGP key