From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 3 09:55:28 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B4BD24C1 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2014 09:55:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from out3-smtp.messagingengine.com (out3-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.27]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 804371CAE for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2014 09:55:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute3.internal (compute3.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.43]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E3FD20990 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2014 04:55:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from web1 ([10.202.2.211]) by compute3.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 03 Jan 2014 04:55:24 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mailcan.com; h= message-id:from:to:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:in-reply-to:references:subject:date; s=mesmtp; bh= aCkczs8GIFTYm5uzWjTCTqpA+5M=; b=pTIzwyeCe/kDQsn9TJDcFmKUjDtHsAKJ CyJk8ZsiFlMNioT7zTzA0YTeoMlVpeNtnEKmwLP52wSzpaMSSivMP5Y3N7wRnYmf G+nLiB2Md0/dOu6y+B2kFQX/k8nSLVxr7oQ+J8B2FNV2uVgW8SafG8NEB7/pokx5 z7g8Z3RFsro= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=message-id:from:to:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:in-reply-to:references :subject:date; s=smtpout; bh=aCkczs8GIFTYm5uzWjTCTqpA+5M=; b=IUF OirRu+Y7Zw+LhfinpHJiJNJ3rPoJ7r0PzOsExseaYOg2MgYvSyzNuHwzmRTgXC7Y vy9bfJ6qTRPBVGnTIWIJhfEjqKQo8+Yb3Lw2b6YWYCUL9q5qfE9nt5UEamTfXLFc sTx04rK1uQnhibuIkPJAdP19BYbHTYkB/Egb1k4E= Received: by web1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix, from userid 99) id 04004F002D4; Fri, 3 Jan 2014 04:55:23 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1388742923.13075.66094133.4ECA9B2B@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Sasl-Enc: zurfh6aPAMt83iGyc+/ebzLAPCtgA0vtgO6ATWSgWd97 1388742923 From: precutcolours@mailcan.com To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - html In-Reply-To: <52C6288F.7050106@freebsd.org> References: <1388713046.8058.65995889.43FA6F1D@webmail.messagingengine.com> <52C6288F.7050106@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Install Tips for Newbie with FreeBSD 10 Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2014 09:55:23 +0000 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2014 09:55:28 -0000 OK .. I should clarify. The whole point of the flash stick is to isolate the Apple Partition Table problem. I need GUID tables on all other disks. These must be used by other machines. The flash stick can stay put on its assigned box. (For booting that alone, there's no particular benefit to GUID tables, as you say.) Next, I gather at least one UFS partition holds the BSD kernel. OK. So I can't boot FreeBSD straight from ZFS on PowerPC? Am I correct that the min install on the flash stick would be GRUB2 pointing to a boot kernel on a UFS partition someplace else? Since I can't use ZFS for the kernel anyway, would it be better to put the UFS-kernel partition on the flash stick itself, with the rest of BSD on some ZFS partition? I would already have the partition tables made, it's just a question of populating and filesystems. I do not see a need to ask FreeBSD to make the partition tables. I could have the filesystems already done, too, so the installer could just populate. I dislike the notion of installing one place, then divvying up. On Linux there is usually a menu-driven scheme to assign /tmp, /var, /home and such wherever during install. I assume FreeBSD 10 has something equivalent. > FreeBSD project is not currently providing prebuilt PowerPC packages Thanks for that sad tip. I was waiting on v 10 binary packaging. I was aware of all the meltdowns in recent months. So even with the new v 10, I must build all packages on PowerPC from source, like Gentoo Linux? Has the BSD team any ETA/plans on binary package support for PowerPC (weeks/months/years/never)? Thanks again. -- http://www.fastmail.fm - The way an email service should be