From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 24 08:33:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0362616A420 for ; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 08:33:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsdlists@elitists.org) Received: from gv.elitists.org (gv.elitists.org [64.40.88.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BA7843D55 for ; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 08:33:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsdlists@elitists.org) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (h202.elitists.org [64.40.88.202]) by gv.elitists.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79C2F1F990 for ; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 02:33:46 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <43D5E671.1060801@elitists.org> Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 02:33:53 -0600 From: "F. Even - fbsd-questions" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Macintosh/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: FreeBSD 6.0 - install critiques - install issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 08:33:46 -0000 OK...I've been running FreeBSD since 4.0...and I've always noticed "installation" issues here and there. Mostly though, I've always been good to go after a good dry run (which I always recommend to everyone I recommend FreeBSD to) and usually on a 2nd run all the options are fine. I've pretty much ran 4.x boxes for quite awhile...dabbled with 5.x, but didn't run it on anything....but I do believe I installed the box a couple times to get my "options" correct. But now I've installed 6.0 for the first time on a machine that I plan on making a production box, and I've still noticed some of the installation "oddities." One big "nuisance" is that you cannot safely cancel out of many/some of the sysinstall options during install. During install of fxp1 (the first and only NIC I chose), I chose to let it grab a DHCP address, then cancelled out of the NIC config. Instead of dropping me back to choose another NIC, or the same NIC, the install just proceeded on, as if I'd completed my network config (I did revisit it at the end of the install, but still...esp. for a newbie, that's an unnecessary stumbling block). The one that really hit me though was the mail config. There were more mail config options than I'm used to from previous 4.x and 5.x installs, I cancelled out of it without choosing. Post-install, sendmail was running. I figured...fine...it installed a default. No big deal. So...I fired up sysinstall, navigated to: Configure > Networking > Mail > Postfix (using FTP server as the source...didn't feel like putting in the CD). Well...it installed Postfix and it's dependencies, message popped up that it was the "default" MTA....but sendmail is still there, and postfix is not running (I don't see an RC script either to start it and /etc/mailer.conf is unchanged). So...I went through, and picked "No MTA" in sysinstall. Well...sendmail is still running, and postfix is still installed (can't say I expected removal....but the behavior for defaulting to sendmail and then going back and picking postfix later doesn't make sense). I'd like to figure out how to correct this in the "base OS" structure without going back and re-installing (really shouldn't have to) OR going to ports (does the postfix port still have the "make replace" target...that was great). Any hints? Any help would be appreciated (granted, I haven't gotten that far to where I absolutely cannot re-install...but I really shouldn't have to. If sendmail was in some kind of a pkg_db or something, I could simply remove sendmail and hopefully picking postfix as the MTA from sysinstall would install it instead....but it doesn't appear to be like that). Thanks for any help in advance, Frank Currently, my rc.conf (with some output) looks like this: root@vabsd# cat /etc/rc.conf # -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # Sat Jan 21 22:28:55 2006 # Created: Sat Jan 21 22:28:55 2006 # Enable network daemons for user convenience. # Please make all changes to this file, not to /etc/defaults/rc.conf. # This file now contains just the overrides from /etc/defaults/rc.conf. #REMOVED: usbd_enable="YES" defaultrouter="192.168.X.X" hostname="hostname" ifconfig_fxp1="inet 192.168.X.X netmask 255.255.255.0" linux_enable="YES" local_startup="/usr/local/etc/rc.d" moused_enable="NO" moused_type="NO" ntpdate_enable="YES" ntpdate_flags="us.pool.ntp.org" saver="green" sshd_enable="YES" usbd_enable="NO" # -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # Tue Jan 24 01:22:02 2006 sendmail_msp_queue_enable="NO" sendmail_outbound_enable="NO" sendmail_submit_enable="NO" sendmail_flags="-bd" sendmail_enable="YES" # -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # Tue Jan 24 01:27:09 2006 sendmail_enable="NONE" root@vabsd# pkg_info bash-3.0.16_1 The GNU Project's Bourne Again SHell gettext-0.14.5 GNU gettext package libiconv-1.9.2_1 A character set conversion library libtool-1.5.18 Generic shared library support script (1.5) linux_base-8-8.0_6 Base set of packages needed in Linux mode (only for i386) pcre-6.2 Perl Compatible Regular Expressions library postfix-2.2.5,1 A secure alternative to widely-used Sendmail root@vabsd# cat /etc/mail/mailer.conf # $FreeBSD: src/etc/mail/mailer.conf,v 1.3 2002/04/05 04:25:12 gshapiro Exp $ # # Execute the "real" sendmail program, named /usr/libexec/sendmail/sendmail # sendmail /usr/libexec/sendmail/sendmail send-mail /usr/libexec/sendmail/sendmail mailq /usr/libexec/sendmail/sendmail newaliases /usr/libexec/sendmail/sendmail hoststat /usr/libexec/sendmail/sendmail purgestat /usr/libexec/sendmail/sendmail