From owner-freebsd-arch Fri Mar 16 17:26:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from meow.osd.bsdi.com (meow.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 951FE37B718 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:26:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (john@jhb-laptop.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.241]) by meow.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f2H1PgG72093; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:25:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20010316171845.U29888@fw.wintelcom.net> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:25:55 -0800 (PST) From: John Baldwin To: Alfred Perlstein Subject: Re: NO MORE '-BETA' Cc: Jordan Hubbard , drosih@rpi.edu, tlambert@primenet.com, arch@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 17-Mar-01 Alfred Perlstein wrote: > * John Baldwin [010316 17:16] wrote: >> >> On 17-Mar-01 Alfred Perlstein wrote: >> > * Jordan Hubbard [010316 16:44] wrote: >> >> > Let's just add something to cvsup to prompt the user? Or something >> >> > in the build process that's interactive? or what? >> >> >> >> How about turning it off to all but authorized users (those who have >> >> a registered cvsup key, as on freefall) during release periods? >> > >> > The real pain is that there doesn't seem to be a way stop users from >> > upgrading before they actually do it. >> > >> > I think what'll happen is that sometime tomorrow I'll add an option >> > to newvers.sh to detect a cross version change and have the world >> > and installworld and installkernel targets check and prompt unless >> > something like EARLY_ADOPTER=YES is set in make.conf or you're >> > building a 'release'. >> > >> > Would that be ok? >> >> So you will prompt them wiht a question that will make them ignore it >> and cut and paste it into a message and mail it off to a dozen lists >> screaming about it? If they can't manage to follow -stable or read the >> FAQ, what makes you think they will bother with reading the message you >> output with going into hysteria? They've already demonstrated a lack >> of reading ability or willingness or something. > > Those people can go fly a kite. These are the same people who complained about -BETA that got you started off on this whole thread to begin with. Please pick one position and stick with it, K PLZ THX. > You stated that -BETA actually is a bit less stable than -STABLE and > hence should be -BETA. The problem is that: > THERE'S NO WARNING UNTIL YOU ACTUALLY BOOT WITH YOUR '-BETA' SYSTEM Sure there is, it's called the mailing list. If you cvsup -current there's also no warning until you boot with your -CURRENT system, although I see you kindly ignored my pointing that out last time. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message