From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 16 04:01:03 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E921B16A41F; Fri, 16 Sep 2005 04:01:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from ext-gw.lemis.com (ext-gw.lemis.com [150.101.14.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41A9A43D45; Fri, 16 Sep 2005 04:01:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.135]) by ext-gw.lemis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92F9B13112A; Fri, 16 Sep 2005 13:31:01 +0930 (CST) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6CDAD85227; Fri, 16 Sep 2005 13:31:01 +0930 (CST) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 13:31:01 +0930 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Erich Dollansky Message-ID: <20050916040101.GL86168@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20050915051003.GK27537@freebsdmall.com> <43290F06.8080103@pacific.net.sg> <1126764560.582.4.camel@dude.automatvapen.se> <4329116D.2040205@pacific.net.sg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="2OzUYMsT4j3Kc+NU" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4329116D.2040205@pacific.net.sg> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, Murray Stokely , freebsd-www@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Moving to the new website redesign X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 04:01:04 -0000 --2OzUYMsT4j3Kc+NU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Thursday, 15 September 2005 at 14:15:09 +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote: > Joel Dahl wrote: >> On Thu, 2005-09-15 at 14:04 +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote: >>> >>> Murray Stokely wrote: >>> >>>> http://beastie.emilyboyd.com/~emily/data/ >>> >>> the fonts are pretty small on a screen with a higher resolution. >>> >>> I did not check, but an absolut font size (10pt) helps here a lot. >> >> You can adjust the text-size, check the upper-right corner on the >> website. Right, but the layout suffers. Take a look at http://www.lemis.com/grog/Day/20050915/webpage.gif, which shows how it renders on my 2048x1536 monitor. The links at top right overlap, and the right column below overflows the box. If I increase the character size further, numerous fields overlap. I don't know how long it will be before real high-res monitors come into being (though I suspect that the weaknesses of HTML will hold them up), but when they do this will be even worse. Before you say that this is ridiculously large text, it isn't. http://www.lemis.com/grog/Day/20050915/webpage-1024x768.gif shows the size it would be on a 1024x768 screen. Note that the old web page doesn't have this problem, even with extreme character sizes. > There would be no need for this if absolute values for the size > would be used. I thought so too, until I set the screen size on my home projector system. Then I got images like http://wwww.lemis.com/grog/Day/20050831/firefox.gif. Look at the headings: they're 10 pt, but on a 2.5 metre wide screen (11 dpi!) they're completely illegible. The real problem is that HTML renders individual parts of the screen individually. There are so many areas where that doesn't work; PDF doesn't have the same issues. But that's another rant. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers. --2OzUYMsT4j3Kc+NU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDKkN9IubykFB6QiMRAiaPAJ4+fRA2uPd7QxvuzRpxIlvzQjcBgQCfZQVn Kb5emxJ/ZKytOLigiWwJinc= =DHmv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --2OzUYMsT4j3Kc+NU--