From owner-freebsd-arch Mon Jun 17 2: 5:57 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (mta6.snfc21.pbi.net [206.13.28.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8E3137B411; Mon, 17 Jun 2002 02:05:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kokeb.ambesa.net ([64.173.11.16]) by mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0GXU00IW1ELR9U@mta6.snfc21.pbi.net>; Mon, 17 Jun 2002 02:05:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kokeb.ambesa.net (tanstaafl@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kokeb.ambesa.net (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5H9B6Ma004554; Mon, 17 Jun 2002 02:11:06 -0700 (PDT envelope-from mikem@kokeb.ambesa.net) Received: (from mikem@localhost) by kokeb.ambesa.net (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g5H9B6QW004553; Mon, 17 Jun 2002 02:11:06 -0700 (PDT envelope-from mikem) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 02:11:06 -0700 From: Mike Makonnen Subject: Re: rcNG rollout in -current In-reply-to: <3D0D0C4A.2B1B3102@FreeBSD.org> To: Doug Barton Cc: nik@FreeBSD.ORG, julian@elischer.org, gordon@FreeBSD.ORG, brian@Awfulhak.org, arch@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: <20020617021106.7aa4ef86.makonnen@pacbell.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.7.0 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386--freebsd5.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <20020616224017.A52976@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <3D0D0C4A.2B1B3102@FreeBSD.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 16 Jun 2002 15:08:10 -0700 Doug Barton wrote: > Nik Clayton wrote: > > > Hmm. When is the existing /etc/rc* system going to be officially > > deprecated? Has anyone thought about that? At the moment it sounds > > like 5.x is going to ship with the new system, and without the old one. > > Yes, the reasoning is that since the goal is to have the new stuff doing > exactly what the old stuff does, there's no reason not to just get it > over with. Yes, this is why I've been dissapointed with the dearth of testers. I've tried to set it up so that when you switch on rcng, nothing will break. For that we need lots of testers (especially those that are opposed to rcng) so they can tell us if switching it on breaks something. There are a few compatibility knobs in rc.conf (like named_rcng) and scripts ( like /etc/rc.d/{othermta, local}) so that people can change over painlessly. The plan is to leave these compatibility knobs and scripts in 5.0, and mark the current knobs they're designed to work around as deprecated. That should give people enough time to fix local installations before they are removed in 6.0. Cheers, Mike Makonnen. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message