From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 24 23:01:33 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2BBE1065670 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 23:01:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from cpoproxy1-pub.bluehost.com (cpoproxy1-pub.bluehost.com [69.89.21.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 762548FC08 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 23:01:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 21154 invoked by uid 0); 24 Feb 2011 23:01:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 24 Feb 2011 23:01:32 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=cf4ZjjAZzAze1VkDSb28gYGVzM0wV8mhuk6a5ngEY7bpkz0rMMgbFYgbXKTNdkCPH7g0dGc1pqINVLwA9Oy3+JnTWfvPNqojCez93zTOAsTkO0av5LAiiVdxKOPdZ9ow; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PskBf-0003VQ-JM for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 16:01:32 -0700 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 24 Feb 2011 15:50:46 -0700 Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 15:50:46 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110224225046.GA13490@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20110224213322.GA13089@guilt.hydra> <20110224221057.GA13262@guilt.hydra> <20110224223924.GF1983@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="GvXjxJ+pjyke8COw" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110224223924.GF1983@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: Backtick versus $() X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 23:01:33 -0000 --GvXjxJ+pjyke8COw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 02:39:24PM -0800, Chip Camden wrote: > Quoth Chad Perrin on Thursday, 24 February 2011: > >=20 > > What we have not yet determined is: > >=20 > > 1. Is it a good idea to replace (t)csh? >=20 > Though I dislike the OP's dismissal of backticks, I must admit that I > would prefer that the standard shell be at least Bourne-compatible. I > use csh for root for all the reasons that you shouldn't change your > root shell. I suppose I could change root to /bin/sh, but that doesn't > even have command recall. I don't know how many times I've keyed in a > nicely composed off-the-cuff conditional only to have it fall flat. I > have to remind myself to start zsh first when working as root, or start > getting used to using toor instead, or just always use sudo. The toor account seems like the right answer here. In general, I actually prefer the csh-style syntax for an interactive shell, personally. I would be willing to deal with sh as the default shell, and make changes to use tcsh instead as needed, though. Would I would not want is to go the other direction -- to change the default shell to something with too many dependencies and licensing more restrictive than FreeBSD's preferred license. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --GvXjxJ+pjyke8COw Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk1m4MYACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKWniwCfVZyR8qtUN8f9D1yu5tna6UtG QgsAoKY0KtEb1qrCiZO3HSL4ekcG4sSk =W3bN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --GvXjxJ+pjyke8COw--