From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jun 28 01:21:22 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2309A15D44C9 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2019 01:21:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tekbasse@yahoo.com) Received: from sonic315-55.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (sonic315-55.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.137.65.31]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AF6D582E99 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2019 01:21:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tekbasse@yahoo.com) X-YMail-OSG: 9B038iAVM1l3lUHRqhmmSQqFj4UUiFAdhYrfH7sSxyHEQmKzf59DFJUXvGkXbZK CDhIMrHFqgO5QlsmbNCM86vUg.nzNuZBVcJPdZVzfcfpD24USAmX5hNvCKL3M1LuT.YmWcwtGyP1 E3pNod0ZHTifrHIwGNP6JOlgaqKRYMI9Q9Vd1c9nJuciaWUtUo2odx5vZP.r7EAj.K3dJOwhLZ9p AJ8uvdrxcnT4CHbuG3AO3wzOily3oVWN4P96xF8ZzdzEGbKQg9xtP2qzdirFKUThnQYEjIOFcjCh jLCDhRfThKL_7ygcILBT26lsJ5WrNSDT1R52nsgr0q9Bt2F7ikWUNHU4dhNi1115N1bY.PY04KGI yRo0r5N3gyRKi1bRlgQm4maZvjtuuHj41IrxC4rF6VeE4XKtOg9Bi7WhZgC4DGF821lh3AjqC4_p YhkpjDshG3CsrATngrFIPiWRseT7F20dmN1p83jyL8sas0AA6c4jEubq2x4Ywb.bKFDzxLX1i1ZG Jr8Wesi_fP4sfsDpWIlByNbMD9SJZWoUio5pp5qewXWUjRM8EIaeL0ogVK.47blzo0X5WrNhzbEa I7RN.XwOgpE1J15Ncv7tK7DxKRQJ7XLWZhXV5euiGG5o9MClwehMv4xAj4l_syI8MKaAiUDn3zvW BwMza7.p44Ersic6doAZFleEPDdYbMhk3phBtnK8QkKsrpRS3GuitBTAW7Fnb4GR.AFp4Qx8jJLj 2eM_4DLVNodv5g0yftWZRjmU306b3Roxjv3UlEiAqdaIsbnwrjZmzpv8HDyzMyYXmZ02OAjtLhYO iSOvDeaZ_.qL029YaC5RMFQqfj_JUtA3u1TXDOq9.djTQT1UnO7ZqNPpX6f_ee89uIc9FTzbQ.9d bksdshuUL49Qja_QfgaDTSIuTSW6h5ZxWhnnn9eEb0jFYo9OWAFNu9Cwy2lN0chOAlEQ2kMwsqbW Nng5TVoMya7ifntiShYl7JrfstvKoxBgO0dgy1B72gF9s.j5mP6WqGQgZsms3Nav2dxPimJQtaYo z6UYu1aTwA9ixqOdQ1.JoUKHt2rBVhMK41SyMunpR5xkxz4SFg2IwsloUyNBX_qDFkrHs4K9kqdn zlC9_sUlAPUWnSegaGncV4YGn5YC3rebvLJ2GR4GlRBDruWtgJt1bpG0YGzvm.R9a4gAGCbYqMqR YXyd5wDaCmBMfsIxRcF7vvvXZSOOy2y._KFScoGCVbKGoS2EySBhXWjuzH5UkTAKRIPcudsvjmox qa_5V6DpR.xWFZ9peayBCVA-- Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic315.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Fri, 28 Jun 2019 01:21:18 +0000 Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2019 01:11:06 +0000 (UTC) From: Ben Brink To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, RW Message-ID: <1414270395.52662.1561684266029@mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20190628005238.14f1b65a@gumby.homeunix.com> References: <2135741875.940696.1561667660482.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <2135741875.940696.1561667660482@mail.yahoo.com> <445zoqhdwv.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <20190628005238.14f1b65a@gumby.homeunix.com> Subject: Re: How to update ports for portmaster? MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.13913 YMailNorrin Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Ubuntu; Linux x86_64; rv:67.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/67.0 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: AF6D582E99 X-Spamd-Bar: +++++ X-Spamd-Result: default: False [5.84 / 15.00]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; URI_COUNT_ODD(1.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yahoo.com:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mta6.am0.yahoodns.net]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[yahoo.com,reject]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36647, ipnet:98.137.64.0/21, country:US]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[yahoo.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yahoo.com:s=s2048]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(1.00)[0.997,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(1.00)[0.996,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[1.000,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[31.65.137.98.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE(1.85)[ip: (7.65), ipnet: 98.137.64.0/21(0.93), asn: 36647(0.75), country: US(-0.06)]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2019 01:21:22 -0000 Thank you. I read the manual and refer to it first, which is why I'm asking= . Context is often implied in the manuals, which I'm very good at missing. This is on an image published by freebsd. The "bug" report explains exactly the symptoms and circumstances I'm dealin= g with. The report concludes that the ports tree needs updated, subsequentl= y, that is my working diagnosis and prognosis. Apparently there's enough of ports on the image that installing portmaster= via make install worked. The status of the ports tree on a new image published by FreeBSD.org is not= clear to me. I must have missed the document that explains it or misunders= tood where it is stated. Thank you again for taking the time to respond with information about what = I should be doing to rebuild, update, or install ports.. ./ben On Thursday, June 27, 2019, 4:54:00 PM PDT, RW via freebsd-questions wrote: =20 =20 On Thu, 27 Jun 2019 18:16:48 -0400 Lowell Gilbert wrote: > > I've also tried: > > portsnap update > > # but it complains that I need to portsnap extract also.. And yet, I > > don't want to create voluminous storage.. and have two ports > > management systems in use.=C2=A0=20 >=20 > Well, portsnap update doesn't update your ports tree. Only the extract > step does that. Just to be clear, 'portsnap update' does update your ports tree if the tree has previously been initialized with a 'portsnap extract'. _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org= " =20 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jun 28 05:27:36 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E953315D8742 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2019 05:27:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [217.72.192.73]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 842DC8A3C4 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2019 05:27:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([94.222.13.22]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue109 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1Mf0Jg-1iEAcZ01ZS-00gVD1; Fri, 28 Jun 2019 07:27:17 +0200 Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2019 07:27:16 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Ralf Mardorf Cc: Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions Subject: Re: I've got a major question... 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I don't want > the software for free as in beer. I want to buy (pay for it and then > own) the software I want to use, since there are times when I have > money and there are times all I've got to eat, are the wallpapers from > my walls. To do some work, the software to do the work is > needed. If an artist can't pay the rent for the software, the artist > can't do the artwork to earn money. And even if you buy a book, the book will stop working. Repeat: The books will stop working. https://twitter.com/rdonoghue/status/1144011630197522432 The "always online & for rent" doesn't just add financial problems as expressed above, but can also introduce new security pitfalls, plus the "extra pay" you (as the user) provide by allowing the vendor to harvest your usage behaviour and sell that to what I often call their real clients: the advertising industry. And if you don't pay, your data - the art _you_ created - is held hostage until you pay. Or it is "accidentally" lost in which case, as per the EULA, you don't have any rights for compensation. And remember: The books will stop working. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...