From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 16 10:16:05 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E468E106566C for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2011 10:16:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mihai.dontu@gmail.com) Received: from mail.bitdefender.com (mail.bitdefender.com [91.199.104.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37DF48FC1E for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2011 10:16:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 15594 invoked from network); 16 Feb 2011 12:16:02 +0200 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys X-BitDefender-Spam: No (0) X-BitDefender-SpamStamp: v1, build 2.8.97.130332, SQMD Hits: InvalidIPBytes34 97.60.122.121, rbl score: 0(0), bayes score: 500(0), pbayes score: 500(0), neunet score: 500(0), flags: [NN_LEGIT_SUMM_400_WORDS], SQMD: 412883a21ace84bb6e9800c9326f2225.fuzzy.fzrbl.org, total: 0(775) X-BitDefender-Scanner: Clean, Agent: BitDefender qmail 3.1.0 on elfie.dsd.hq, sigver: 7.36283 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=gmail.com; b=LfdDSfcKDqHg4RV1L0UEjqeBHbK+TcYfNbSb1FzaBpVCdW1Nxx4U0XRksX4LUP4RTHFtZcpSEZrGqxnqIYGqZfl0DRp89ho+pH/174UY0YT5+4XZ+MgbL+HQVPlmbtb6aMPc57i0FjxI56UZqV7YwfjmA0f0QK36+BNFUKMCjT0= ; Received: from mdontu-dell.dsd.ro (HELO mdontu-dell.localnet) (mdontu@bitdefender.com@10.10.14.115) by mail.bitdefender.com with SMTP; 16 Feb 2011 12:16:01 +0200 From: Mihai =?utf-8?q?Don=C8=9Bu?= Organization: Home To: Devin Teske Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 12:16:00 +0200 References: <20110216070941.GA18339@thought.org> <201102161039.34069.mihai.dontu@gmail.com> <525C9A76-6D51-4FE9-834B-3BA39192822F@vicor.com> In-Reply-To: <525C9A76-6D51-4FE9-834B-3BA39192822F@vicor.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <201102161216.01626.mihai.dontu@gmail.com> Cc: Gary Kline , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: google browser? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 10:16:05 -0000 (e-mails from the past always find me unprepared) On Wednesday 23 July 2008 11:52:58 Devin Teske wrote: > On Feb 16, 2011, at 12:39 AM, Mihai Don=C8=9Bu wrote: > > On Wednesday 16 February 2011 09:09:44 Gary Kline wrote: > >> Anybody know how to use this "Chrome"? I don't see any places to > >> plug in players ... like vlc, etc. Can't find and back/Forward > >> icons, nothing like firefox.... I give it all three thumbs > >> down..... > >>=20 > >> Would still like to see GOOG have its own "twitter" and "facebook" > >> tho..... > >>=20 > >> Anybody else have the browser on FBSD?? > >=20 > > I haven't tried it, but maybe it works under the FreeBSD Linux emulatio= n. > > I found some build hints here too: http://wiki.freebsd.org/Chromium , > > however it definitely needs some love from a dedicated FreeBSD > > developer. > >=20 > > I use Google Chrome (or Chromium - depends on how bleeding edge I want = to > > be) on Linux. I'm amazed by the speed with which the project progresses > > and the incredible feel of the browser itself. >=20 > I've heard certain noises on this list that the current port-maintainer of > Chromium has dropped the ball (not my words, just paraphrasing the > sentiment from the below thread). >=20 > http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=3D890197+893402+/usr/local/ww= w/db > /text/2010/freebsd-questions/20101231.freebsd-questions >=20 > The OP's concerns about security vulnerabilities (though voiced over 30 > days ago) still appear to be of concern (that is to say, nothing appears > to have changed except some _minor_ work on January 18th this year by > rene). >=20 > However, Freshports still has a less-than-favorable status for this port: > http://www.freshports.org/www/chromium/ >=20 > Now... that being said, I have a co-worker that is running Chromium every > day on FreeBSD-8.1 and he's very happy with it. Though, given the above > consideration, both him and I have decided to _not_ deploy this browser in > production (at least until we can get some love on those vulnerabilities). >=20 > So, I guess I'd like to throw the query out there... >=20 > If you had to pick between Firefox and Chrome for distribution to >1000 > FreeBSD systems running 8.1 in production... which would you choose? We're > heavily leaning toward Firefox, but would love to hear other's opinions of > Chrome (if it requires Linux emulation, that may be a death-knell, leaving > Firefox the only real choice???). I've been an avid Firefox user until ~1 month ago. I just couldn't put up w= ith=20 the sluggishness anymore. Tried to use Firefox 4 beta. No dice. The JS engi= ne=20 _is_ faster but that didn't solve the problem. The UI is just not OK. I use= d=20 to think it was because of the multi-threaded design, until Opera rolled ou= t=20 version 10 which is just as snappy as Google Chrome. The only downside with= =20 Opera is that it's just too strict wrt standards. FF and Chrome use all kin= ds=20 of quirks to make old websites render reasonably well. Still, given the=20 current situation on FreeBSD, I'd go with Opera. I love Mozilla and its pus= h=20 towards a free/open web, but with version 4 they seem to have lost focus on= =20 what it matters for the majority of the people. Sure, fast web page renderi= ng=20 is important, but I for one wouldn't mind a slow[ish] render if I was able = to=20 quickly open another tab (page) to bash.org (just an example) while I wait = for=20 the other one to load. Note that I use FreeBSD only on my servers. I use Linux for desktop, so tak= e=20 my suggestion with a grain of salt. :-) =2D-=20 Mihai Don=C8=9Bu