From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 19 11:15:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48DFF16A41F; Fri, 19 May 2006 11:15:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from mail07.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail07.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.188]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B79343D46; Fri, 19 May 2006 11:15:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (c220-239-19-236.belrs4.nsw.optusnet.com.au [220.239.19.236]) by mail07.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k4JBFKGQ001413 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 19 May 2006 21:15:21 +1000 Received: from turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (localhost.vk2pj.dyndns.org [127.0.0.1]) by turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k4JBFKPh001638; Fri, 19 May 2006 21:15:20 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peter@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id k4JBFK1C001637; Fri, 19 May 2006 21:15:20 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peter) Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 21:15:19 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy To: Wilko Bulte Message-ID: <20060519111519.GA1587@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org> References: <200605111424.04935.jhb@freebsd.org> <20060518101734.4036.qmail@dachs.cyberlink.ch> <20060519082621.GA736@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <20060519094154.GA10634@freebie.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060519094154.GA10634@freebie.xs4all.nl> X-PGP-Key: http://members.optusnet.com.au/peterjeremy/pubkey.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: freebsd-alpha@infopuls.com, alpha@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADSUP: Alpha support is being retired in 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 11:15:35 -0000 [I've just realised that I broke my e-mail a few weeks ago and mutt has been helpfully and invisibly inserting a "Mail-Followup-To" line that includes an address that won't work. Thanks to Wilko for (inadvertently) drawing my attention to it and apologies for any bounces. I hope I've fixed it.] On Fri, 2006-May-19 11:41:54 +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: >One thing that I have been pondering is that for Alpha you will now have to >directly commit things onto RELENG_[56] without going to HEAD first. > >After all, there is no buildable Alpha support in HEAD anymore. > >I think this is a first in FreeBSD, which makes it interesting.. There have been device drivers that have been lost in -current before so it not a totally novel concept but this is the first architecture to have been dropped. >Well.. if you just count the problems with unaligned accesses etc >I wonder if SPARC64 fills that gap? I just don't know enough about >SPARC64 here, mind you. SPARC definitely requires aligned accesses. I'm not sure what Sun did with the SPARC64. The other option is to set the "alignment checking" bit on i386. -- Peter Jeremy