From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 2 04:44:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C97341065671 for ; Wed, 2 Apr 2008 04:44:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7211C8FC13 for ; Wed, 2 Apr 2008 04:44:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDSK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id m324i6qv022289; Tue, 1 Apr 2008 21:44:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Jerry McAllister" Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 20:45:06 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 In-Reply-To: <20080331224536.GC36433@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Importance: Normal X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Tue, 01 Apr 2008 21:44:07 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Wake-on-LAN and the em driver (freebsd 7.x) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 04:44:08 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Jerry McAllister [mailto:jerrymc@msu.edu] > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 2:46 PM > To: Ted Mittelstaedt > Cc: Walker; Kent Hauser; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Wake-on-LAN and the em driver (freebsd 7.x) > > > On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 02:09:22PM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Walker > > > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 11:37 AM > > > To: Kent Hauser; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > > Subject: Re: Wake-on-LAN and the em driver (freebsd 7.x) > > > > > > > > > I would like to know of any other easier ways to do this. > > > > Any network admin worth his salt has an old win98 system tucked > > away that can be used to create bootable dos cd's. > > Don't know much about the value of salt, but the old Win 98 machine > I have around has a dead CD and dead floppy as well. Guess they are > replaceable, but is it worth money and bother? > You must think so at some level or you would have tossed them ;-) Of course it's not worth fixing them unless you need the system - but you never know what the future holds. I actually have 2 w98 systems running here at the house. Both are used by the kids and run an assortment of kids game software that I pick up for a few bucks from the local Goodwill. Right now the youngest's favorite software is "petz 4", it's a virtual dog, and the older's is surfing the starwars.com site. (needless to say, it's done through a FreeBSD proxy server that limits the machine to a very strict number of sites) Runs as well as it did a decade ago when it was written. I just don't personally see the point of dropping a grand into a computer and shiny new software for it when the primary and secondary users are under 10 years old and are perfectly happy with older programs. > I wouldn't be surprised if there are many like that sitting around. > Believe it or not we just had an adult bring in a w98 system into the ISP today to get it online. And we even had an old 33.6 external modem that we just gave her for it. She lives in the sticks and has zero broadband alternatives (except for satellite which is too expensive for her) and is behind multiple D/A conversions on her phone line, so 28.8K dialup is what she runs. It's pretty incredible what's still in production out there. Ted