Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 20:06:01 -0800 From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.cdrom.com> To: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: My views on Eclipse/BSD Message-ID: <7654.950241961@zippy.cdrom.com>
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Since everyone seems to be jumping up and down on this, I thought I'd just chime in with my two cents on the matter. I saw the Lucent folks behind this when they first brought a demo of Eclipse to FreeBSDCon '99 and, frankly, I was just pleased that they were willing to show up as exhibitors and to show it off at all. Now we see it more widely available under a license which allows us to play with it but not to sell it. Where's the harm in that? We can all still benefit from the experience of examining yet another type of approach in dealing with Quality Of Service issues. The truly interested can also use it as a springboard for looking past Eclipse and into the future of QoS systems, hopefully to then begin implementing something in the open source space which takes us to an even greater level of technical sophistication in FreeBSD's QoS infrastructure. None of that requires Lucent to be any more "open" than they currently are with the licensing of Eclipse and we really ought to be thanking them right now (instead of whining) for allowing us to take such an open and thorough look at their design strategies. It took a lot longer than for Plan9 to escape from Lucent and we should, if anything, be marvelling at the speed at which this has taken place at all. :-) I'd also venture to say that if such a next-generation QoS movement springs up as a result of what people see in Eclipse, it won't be long before these very same folks at Lucent are among the loudest voices of all, screaming for a truly OSS license and the ability to work cooperatively on Eclipse's follow-up act. By the very nature of software engineering Eclipse is already obsolete, and what we can learn from it going forward interests me a lot more than its license at the moment. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
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